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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 1345805" data-attributes="member: 957">Hello Trystorp,Thanks for the thoughts.  Obviously you are among the first group I mentioned. I agree that the path of this thread is unfortunate, but I guess I really can not say I am surprised.  There certainly has not been any Harn-snobbery in THIS thread.  But this thread has turned into a discussion on whether or not it exists, so I'm not certain it makes for good evidence either way on that count.But, before you entered, three out of three pro-Harn folks were basically saying that my past history simply did not exist.  I hope you can understand how that can be quite difficult to take seriously.  One person is funny.  Three is a pattern.  Like I said, I'm not really suprised it went this way.  But my honest hope, to the extent that I cared, was that someone like you would come along, someone willing to be mature and thoughtful.  It may be that you are all extremely polite and engaging with each other.  But there are people proclaiming themselves to be Harn fans who go to a lot of trouble to put a very bad face on the rest of you.  You'll note that I'm not even the first one in the thread to mention this.  I just replied that my past supported the same experience that someone else expressed they were, at least, starting to feel.  A thoughtful response would be something to the tune of "Whoever you've met in the past doesn't speak for us." or something like that.  But instead I get irrational claims that my experiences are false, and even, better, implications that it couldn't have happened because someone else did not observe it for themself, not to mention the other blatantly childish asides.  Honestly, do you feel that the maturity you have seen within the Harn community is being shown here?  (Your own post aside.)I completely respect what you said about the game itself.  I used to be very much into that kind of playing. What you said about low-fantasy is almost word for word the type thing I myself said many times.  But now I prefer loin cloth barbarians, drow and mindflayers. Not a maturity thing, it is just where I am these days.  My only point here is I REALLY don't have a single problem with Harn or HarnMaster or any of that.  My only issue is the distinctly abrasive attitude I have encountered on several occasions.  So anyway, thanks for the post.  It is certainly very refreshing.  I am sorry that my bad experiences in the past contribute to unflattering conversation around the game you enjoy.</blockquote>

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