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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7058068" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>My reading of the old threads you are referring to, including the ones you've recently commented in, is very different than yours. The majority of comments are similarly negative, including often the comments of the person writing the conversion.</p><p></p><p>People write: "I've not seen conversion of these...there was some talk a while back of someone wanting to convert H4, but I think it was dubbed as being an almost insane undertaking."</p><p></p><p>"currently impossible without breaking the 'Gentlemens' agreement that is out there. Since orcus and most of the higher level creatures are level 20+ and that material is NOT SRD..."</p><p></p><p>"I am trying to convert the games only 100th level adventure, H4 - The Throne of Bloodstone. yes it is absurd, yes it is silly and no, I don't think it is worth it, but I am at least going to make the four generic PCs and at least one or two encounters..."</p><p></p><p>I should also note that when I talk about 'conversions', I mean something very specific. I mean documents conforming to the legal agreement: <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/rpgdownloads.php?do=download&downloadid=128" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/rpgdownloads.php?do=download&downloadid=128</a></p><p></p><p>It might be possible to do full rewrites of the H series (rather than conversions) but they technically wouldn't be legal to share.</p><p></p><p>I looked at several of those older threads and found blatant copyright violations (people sharing word documents containing full texts of the original module, for example). I found no usable conversions legal or otherwise, except a possible hint from a guy who said that he'd managed to convert it for his own use and the "conversion" ran to hundreds of pages (which I fully believe) but he wasn't going to publish it.</p><p></p><p>One of the reasons I stopped writing 1e to 3.5e conversions is that it wasn't possible to follow the WotC rules and post a legal and usable conversion of a 1e module to 3e - and I wasn't even posting any of the original text. The vast majority of 1e material requires adaptation, which is officially illegal. All of the H series requires a very large amount of (officially illegal) adaptation. You can't just 'convert' it. For example, one of the stated assumptions of H4 is that 100th level characters are much less than 10 times as powerful as 10th level characters. In 3e, a 100th level character is 100's or even 1000's of times as powerful as a 10th level character. Quite obviously a straight adaption can't be performed, even not getting into the many other serious questions the module raises.</p><p></p><p>Basically what I'm telling you is that speaking as someone that used to be quite involved in the 3e conversion library 10 years ago, I'm fairly sure you won't find what you are looking for. You might find someone like BOZ has written the modules for 3e and would share his campaign notes privately, but they won't strictly speaking be a conversion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7058068, member: 4937"] My reading of the old threads you are referring to, including the ones you've recently commented in, is very different than yours. The majority of comments are similarly negative, including often the comments of the person writing the conversion. People write: "I've not seen conversion of these...there was some talk a while back of someone wanting to convert H4, but I think it was dubbed as being an almost insane undertaking." "currently impossible without breaking the 'Gentlemens' agreement that is out there. Since orcus and most of the higher level creatures are level 20+ and that material is NOT SRD..." "I am trying to convert the games only 100th level adventure, H4 - The Throne of Bloodstone. yes it is absurd, yes it is silly and no, I don't think it is worth it, but I am at least going to make the four generic PCs and at least one or two encounters..." I should also note that when I talk about 'conversions', I mean something very specific. I mean documents conforming to the legal agreement: [url]http://www.enworld.org/forum/rpgdownloads.php?do=download&downloadid=128[/url] It might be possible to do full rewrites of the H series (rather than conversions) but they technically wouldn't be legal to share. I looked at several of those older threads and found blatant copyright violations (people sharing word documents containing full texts of the original module, for example). I found no usable conversions legal or otherwise, except a possible hint from a guy who said that he'd managed to convert it for his own use and the "conversion" ran to hundreds of pages (which I fully believe) but he wasn't going to publish it. One of the reasons I stopped writing 1e to 3.5e conversions is that it wasn't possible to follow the WotC rules and post a legal and usable conversion of a 1e module to 3e - and I wasn't even posting any of the original text. The vast majority of 1e material requires adaptation, which is officially illegal. All of the H series requires a very large amount of (officially illegal) adaptation. You can't just 'convert' it. For example, one of the stated assumptions of H4 is that 100th level characters are much less than 10 times as powerful as 10th level characters. In 3e, a 100th level character is 100's or even 1000's of times as powerful as a 10th level character. Quite obviously a straight adaption can't be performed, even not getting into the many other serious questions the module raises. Basically what I'm telling you is that speaking as someone that used to be quite involved in the 3e conversion library 10 years ago, I'm fairly sure you won't find what you are looking for. You might find someone like BOZ has written the modules for 3e and would share his campaign notes privately, but they won't strictly speaking be a conversion. [/QUOTE]
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