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<blockquote data-quote="Forrester" data-source="post: 144331" data-attributes="member: 1279">Note that the new ECLs for trolls is +11 (see the recent Dragon mag), and I wouldn't be surprised if half-dragons are now +4. But hey, even assuming that the DMG/MM is being followed, this guy is hardly invincible (even with his -- eek -- +10 natural AC bonus). He's got fewer hp than most 12th level fighters, he's got a lousy Will save, and if he gets knocked to -10hp, he's down for at LEAST three rounds. Meaning that his opponents can fight the rest of the party, taking one hit every three rounds to stick a dagger in Trolly's head and put him at -10 again. Not to mention take his ring and his other magic items <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. He's really, really tough -- especially if you put a Pixie with an AM Field in his backpack and throw some adamantine armor on him --but he's far from invincible.&nbsp; Probably tougher, overall, than most 12th level fighters, though. Especially the way the DM is letting him custom-buy his magic items. He's probably letting him take full gold for an 12th level character, too, which is unfair.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Forrester, post: 144331, member: 1279"] Note that the new ECLs for trolls is +11 (see the recent Dragon mag), and I wouldn't be surprised if half-dragons are now +4. But hey, even assuming that the DMG/MM is being followed, this guy is hardly invincible (even with his -- eek -- +10 natural AC bonus). He's got fewer hp than most 12th level fighters, he's got a lousy Will save, and if he gets knocked to -10hp, he's down for at LEAST three rounds. Meaning that his opponents can fight the rest of the party, taking one hit every three rounds to stick a dagger in Trolly's head and put him at -10 again. Not to mention take his ring and his other magic items :). He's really, really tough -- especially if you put a Pixie with an AM Field in his backpack and throw some adamantine armor on him --but he's far from invincible. Probably tougher, overall, than most 12th level fighters, though. Especially the way the DM is letting him custom-buy his magic items. He's probably letting him take full gold for an 12th level character, too, which is unfair. [/QUOTE]

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