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<blockquote data-quote="GVDammerung" data-source="post: 3605553" data-attributes="member: 33060"><p>I got my copy of Aces and Eights last week and have enjoyed looking it over. </p><p></p><p>Without question, this is the finest western RPG ever put together. I think from just a pure production standpoint this may be the sharpest looking RPG ever put together.</p><p></p><p>I have, however, a few quibbles.</p><p></p><p>While I like the cattle ranch/drive and prospector/mining subsystems (the gambling and trial subsystems strike me meh) I note the absence of a subsystem for running a saloon and for engaging in the fur trade. These would have, to me, seemed naturals. Saloons are obviously a big part of the genre and are ideally suited for female PCs, more so than some of the other professions - I'm thinking Kitty from Gunsmoke. While the time period is a bit late, the fur trade features in a number of memorable westerns, two of which are among my personal favorites - Jeremiah Johnson and The Mountain Men. Finding neither covered was a bit disappointing - maybe in a supplement?</p><p></p><p>The cavalry and their Native American counterpoints were also substantially missing in action. I recognize the political sensitivity of these topics but they are huge parts of the genre and not more affirmatively addressing them in a game of this scope is a notable absence. Again, maybe in a supplement?</p><p></p><p>By the same token, running a stage coach line (railroads don't go everywhere), could be an interesting counterpoint to riding the outlaw trail.</p><p></p><p>And where is the sheep herder subsystem? Sheepmen are often foils for cattlemen but they don't appear. That supplement is getting bigger, I hope. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>Also in a supplement, for NPC villains if nothing else, there should be a subsystem for banking and for land claims. The ruthless banker or land speculator is another common feature in any number of westerns.</p><p></p><p>If it isn't already clear what distinguishes A&8 for me is the subsystems built right into the game and fascilitating it. I think an entire supplement devoted to additional such subsystems would be fantastic.</p><p></p><p>Great job on the game! Looking forward to the subsystem supplement! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GVDammerung, post: 3605553, member: 33060"] I got my copy of Aces and Eights last week and have enjoyed looking it over. Without question, this is the finest western RPG ever put together. I think from just a pure production standpoint this may be the sharpest looking RPG ever put together. I have, however, a few quibbles. While I like the cattle ranch/drive and prospector/mining subsystems (the gambling and trial subsystems strike me meh) I note the absence of a subsystem for running a saloon and for engaging in the fur trade. These would have, to me, seemed naturals. Saloons are obviously a big part of the genre and are ideally suited for female PCs, more so than some of the other professions - I'm thinking Kitty from Gunsmoke. While the time period is a bit late, the fur trade features in a number of memorable westerns, two of which are among my personal favorites - Jeremiah Johnson and The Mountain Men. Finding neither covered was a bit disappointing - maybe in a supplement? The cavalry and their Native American counterpoints were also substantially missing in action. I recognize the political sensitivity of these topics but they are huge parts of the genre and not more affirmatively addressing them in a game of this scope is a notable absence. Again, maybe in a supplement? By the same token, running a stage coach line (railroads don't go everywhere), could be an interesting counterpoint to riding the outlaw trail. And where is the sheep herder subsystem? Sheepmen are often foils for cattlemen but they don't appear. That supplement is getting bigger, I hope. :) Also in a supplement, for NPC villains if nothing else, there should be a subsystem for banking and for land claims. The ruthless banker or land speculator is another common feature in any number of westerns. If it isn't already clear what distinguishes A&8 for me is the subsystems built right into the game and fascilitating it. I think an entire supplement devoted to additional such subsystems would be fantastic. Great job on the game! Looking forward to the subsystem supplement! :) [/QUOTE]
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