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<blockquote data-quote="Vadriar" data-source="post: 5786779" data-attributes="member: 89771"><p>Also, that would mean that characters that are meant to be fragile (lets say a Rogue) would get access to a 16 starting Con. I mean, if you do this to dissuade charoppers, I don't think it'll be effective. They will just find another way to make the character better.</p><p></p><p>A Dwarf Battlerager could, for example, just ignore Str and focus on Con and Wis. He gets better opportunity attacks, better Will defense, and doesn't lose on Fort because Con already covers that.</p><p></p><p>Thirdly, it would make higher level feats with stat requirements hard/impossible to get. For example, the epic-level Axe Mastery (because critting is fun) is permanently out of reach because of a 21 Str requirement, unless you start with a 19 or 20 after racial (in the linked system, you do not get stat bumps at levels 4 and 8). Which basically forces you to take a race that fits with your class and ability scores to match -- so it doesn't solve anything.</p><p>That is, if you still get the level 11 and 21 stat boosts (the link doesn't say anything about those). If you don't get those, it's entirely impossible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vadriar, post: 5786779, member: 89771"] Also, that would mean that characters that are meant to be fragile (lets say a Rogue) would get access to a 16 starting Con. I mean, if you do this to dissuade charoppers, I don't think it'll be effective. They will just find another way to make the character better. A Dwarf Battlerager could, for example, just ignore Str and focus on Con and Wis. He gets better opportunity attacks, better Will defense, and doesn't lose on Fort because Con already covers that. Thirdly, it would make higher level feats with stat requirements hard/impossible to get. For example, the epic-level Axe Mastery (because critting is fun) is permanently out of reach because of a 21 Str requirement, unless you start with a 19 or 20 after racial (in the linked system, you do not get stat bumps at levels 4 and 8). Which basically forces you to take a race that fits with your class and ability scores to match -- so it doesn't solve anything. That is, if you still get the level 11 and 21 stat boosts (the link doesn't say anything about those). If you don't get those, it's entirely impossible. [/QUOTE]
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