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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 5990336" data-attributes="member: 18182">The current version of the HackMaster rules may not be intended as a parody, they may be very different from the original HM rules, and HM might just be a great fantasy RPG set of rules . . . . . . . .But to get all bent out of shape when people see the game as a parody of D&amp;D is deliberately ignoring the history of the game, and the HackMaster brand.&nbsp; Before there was even a set of rules, the HackMaster game as featured in the Knights of the Dinner Table was most certainly a parody of D&amp;D.&nbsp; When Kenzer developed the first set of HM rules, they were a retroclone of 1st and 2nd Ed D&amp;D and the setting of the game was also very much a parody of D&amp;D.&nbsp; The game, more importantly, the brand, was founded as a parody of the original and most beloved of RPG games.&nbsp; And the name, HackMaster . . . I just can't take that seriously, regardless of the rules underneath the logo.Kenzer is trying to take a parody brand and turn it around into a serious game with a ridiculous name, and IMO it's no wonder it's still perceived as a parody RPG.&nbsp; I think they would have been much better served leaving HackMaster in the realm of parody and creating a new flagship fantasy game for the Kingdoms of Kalamar setting.For those who love the new game, more power to you!&nbsp; I trust you when you say the new game is no longer a parody of D&amp;D . . . but it just isn't going to shake the taste of parody, no matter how hard you try.&nbsp; Accept it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 5990336, member: 18182"] The current version of the HackMaster rules may not be intended as a parody, they may be very different from the original HM rules, and HM might just be a great fantasy RPG set of rules . . . . . . . . But to get all bent out of shape when people see the game as a parody of D&D is deliberately ignoring the history of the game, and the HackMaster brand. Before there was even a set of rules, the HackMaster game as featured in the Knights of the Dinner Table was most certainly a parody of D&D. When Kenzer developed the first set of HM rules, they were a retroclone of 1st and 2nd Ed D&D and the setting of the game was also very much a parody of D&D. The game, more importantly, the brand, was founded as a parody of the original and most beloved of RPG games. And the name, HackMaster . . . I just can't take that seriously, regardless of the rules underneath the logo. Kenzer is trying to take a parody brand and turn it around into a serious game with a ridiculous name, and IMO it's no wonder it's still perceived as a parody RPG. I think they would have been much better served leaving HackMaster in the realm of parody and creating a new flagship fantasy game for the Kingdoms of Kalamar setting. For those who love the new game, more power to you! I trust you when you say the new game is no longer a parody of D&D . . . but it just isn't going to shake the taste of parody, no matter how hard you try. Accept it. [/QUOTE]

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