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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5779176" data-attributes="member: 4348">I'm not going to re-iterate what's already been said, but I can state my own opinions on the RPGs.I think both are quality products.  I bought 3 Basic Hackmaster sets for players around the table, but I also bought 2 Pathfinder beginner sets.  For the money of a single book, you CANNOT BEAT the Basic Hackmaster set in my opinion.  What you get for what you spend is absolutely terrific when compared between the two.However, I will choose to play the Pathfinder Beginner rules before the Hackmaster Basic rules.  Pathfinder IS MORE expensive overall, even for the beginner box.Both allow you to go to level 5, and both offer a nice quantity of monsters.Hackmaster is sort of like a blend between old AD&D/ New 3.X D&D/ and Houserules.Pathfinder is like 3.X D&D, but refined...IN MY OPINION.As a system I prefer Pathfinder Beginner box and find the way the rules are presented as easier to get into the game for new players, as well as better described and with a better layout.In addition it also has free items for you to download  off the internet for beginning players.As I stated both are excellent choices, Hackmaster offers a better overall value, but for me Pathfinder Beginner offered a better overall game.Another option to look at if you want a simpler, easy game to run, though it's only in PDF format is Castles and Crusades Condensed.  It has just as much as the other two but offers a little bit more overall for the game you get (IMO) and is cheaper for the PDF then hardcopies of the other two. (It also appears to be available for purchase from Paizo's site)My overall preference (if it isn't obvious) is the Pathfinder Beginner from the two you listed.  You also get tokens and a playmat, all pretty good quality, as well as DICE, and all you need to play (character sheets as well) the game.Just giving a little from the other side of someone who prefers the Pathfinder Beginner box over the Hackmaster basic book (though I'm still thinking it's an absolutely great value).I find Pathfinder more intuitive and easier to flow.</blockquote>

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