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<blockquote data-quote="Amphimir Míriel" data-source="post: 5285130" data-attributes="member: 55933"><p>First of all, I find it suspicious that this comment comes to light all these years later</p><p></p><p>...just as we have the parallel of an awards ceremony where a product which is a continuation of an earlier edition of D&D wins many important awards.</p><p></p><p>Therefore, I'll say that while I do not like the ideas behind Pathfinder and do not currently play it, I can readily recognize its superior production values and quality, and therefore I believe its many awards are well deserved.</p><p></p><p>Any company who raises the bar in quality RPG products like Paizo deserves every award it gets. Companies like these force all others to improve their products and give us even better games, year after year.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Having read that link, I find New Horizons interesting... I don't see any allegation by the author that "pulps are racist trash", rather I see the admission that the commonly held values in the early 20th century are different to our own and that he (and apparently others) wanted to explore those differences in their games.</p><p></p><p>Many late 1800 - early 1900 works, while they might seem racist or sexist by our own standards, were actually pretty advanced for its day.</p><p></p><p>H. Rider Haggard's Allan Quatermain speaks thus about gentlemen:</p><p></p><p>"What is a gentleman? I don't quite know, and yet I have had to do with [REDACTED]— no, I'll scratch that word out, for I don't like it. I've known natives who are, and so you'll say, Harry, my boy, before you're done with this tale, and I have known mean whites with lots of money and fresh out from home, too, who ain't."</p><p>--Allan Quatermain (1887)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Amphimir Míriel, post: 5285130, member: 55933"] First of all, I find it suspicious that this comment comes to light all these years later ...just as we have the parallel of an awards ceremony where a product which is a continuation of an earlier edition of D&D wins many important awards. Therefore, I'll say that while I do not like the ideas behind Pathfinder and do not currently play it, I can readily recognize its superior production values and quality, and therefore I believe its many awards are well deserved. Any company who raises the bar in quality RPG products like Paizo deserves every award it gets. Companies like these force all others to improve their products and give us even better games, year after year. Having read that link, I find New Horizons interesting... I don't see any allegation by the author that "pulps are racist trash", rather I see the admission that the commonly held values in the early 20th century are different to our own and that he (and apparently others) wanted to explore those differences in their games. Many late 1800 - early 1900 works, while they might seem racist or sexist by our own standards, were actually pretty advanced for its day. H. Rider Haggard's Allan Quatermain speaks thus about gentlemen: "What is a gentleman? I don't quite know, and yet I have had to do with [REDACTED]— no, I'll scratch that word out, for I don't like it. I've known natives who are, and so you'll say, Harry, my boy, before you're done with this tale, and I have known mean whites with lots of money and fresh out from home, too, who ain't." --Allan Quatermain (1887) [/QUOTE]
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