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<blockquote data-quote="Warrior Poet" data-source="post: 2694162" data-attributes="member: 1057"><p>To my mind, there's a couple of different questions going on with the thread.</p><p></p><p>The poll asks, <em>of the two bands, Warrant and Skid Row</em>, which is better. So, I voted in the context of the two bands as options in the poll. However, the question TracerBullet42 also poses in his first post says, specifically, "which eighties screaming rock band reigned supreme?"</p><p></p><p>To which I must say, of the options presented in the poll, <strong>neither</strong>. Why? Neither of those two bands reigned supreme at anything (as far as I'm concerned; not saying they didn't have some talent or ability, but reign supreme? Nah), and neither was a "screaming rock band."</p><p></p><p>Hair band? Yep, both qualify. In which case, I <strong>still</strong> suggest neither reigned supreme, and I'd have to go with Motley Crüe for the '80s on the hair band front. Success, sold out shows, big fan showing, big hair, lots of makeup, all that the Crüe had.</p><p></p><p>BUT, in the category of "screaming rock band" and "reigning supreme," it's Maiden all the way. They don't call Bruce Dickinson "the air raid siren" for nothing, and as for reigning supreme, Maiden rocks longer, louder, and harder (and frequently more intelligently) than just about anybody else.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, distinction of hair band. Actually, I don't really think of G'n'R as a hair band, I think of them more along the lines of "screaming rock band." I think you can make a good case for G'n'R, but Maiden still wins, in my opinion, for a couple of reasons. 1) Longevity. 2) G'n'R were at least as famous for their ballads ("Patience", "November Rain", "Sweet Child o' Mine" et al.) as they were for their blistering rockers (and their rockers did, indeed, rock). 3) And again, context specific, in the '80s, it's Maiden. G'n'R really started to come into their own, and get the big recognition at the end of the '80s/beginning of the early '90s (yes, I know they were around for a while - <em>Appetite for Destruction</em> was a 1987 release; it picked up steam fast).</p><p></p><p></p><p>I've clearly established myself as a semantics monkey on this, so I'll just keep that train rollin'. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>Excellent point on Metallica, stevelabny. Maiden also survived. Maybe not as much in the U.S. (where they've always had a harder time breaking big anyway; Europe and the rest of the world loves 'em, but the U.S. mainstream media never shows the love, even if they have many devoted U.S. fans), but they're still cranking out good albums (like any artist, they've had a few that weren't so great). So if survival is an indicator of reigning supreme, I still say Maiden. Dickinson's voice <strong>still</strong> screams - he doesn't appear to have lost any power over the years, and the band's playing continues to unfold in diverse, interesting, complex ways (as a bass player, everytime I listen to a new Maiden offering, I marvel at Steve Harris' compositions and lines. How does he do that?)</p><p></p><p>Also, Bon Jovi: screaming rock band? Hmmm . . . maybe. Hair band? Maybe. Pop metal rocker with part time acting career? That feels more like it to me.</p><p></p><p>'Tallica. I love 'em, too, and have ever since my introduction to them (I heard <em>Master of Puppets</em> first), and they are truly a giant in the music world (as they should be), but I don't think of them as "screaming rock band." I certainly don't think of them as a hair band. I do think they're thrash/speed metal/true heavy metal, a category or series of categories in which Warrant and Skid Row do not fall, I think. Metallica has also had tremendous longevity, as you note, and so maybe they would stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Maiden in the '80s. <em>Master of Puppets</em> is still one of the all-time single greatest metal contributions ever, as far as I'm concerned, and over the years they have continued to do interesting things with music, and having seen them live three times, I can definitely say they really rock. So, good call on Metallica.</p><p></p><p>And now that I've thought and talked about this <strong>way</strong> too much, it's time to get some coffee! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>Warrior Poet</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warrior Poet, post: 2694162, member: 1057"] To my mind, there's a couple of different questions going on with the thread. The poll asks, [I]of the two bands, Warrant and Skid Row[/I], which is better. So, I voted in the context of the two bands as options in the poll. However, the question TracerBullet42 also poses in his first post says, specifically, "which eighties screaming rock band reigned supreme?" To which I must say, of the options presented in the poll, [B]neither[/B]. Why? Neither of those two bands reigned supreme at anything (as far as I'm concerned; not saying they didn't have some talent or ability, but reign supreme? Nah), and neither was a "screaming rock band." Hair band? Yep, both qualify. In which case, I [B]still[/B] suggest neither reigned supreme, and I'd have to go with Motley Crüe for the '80s on the hair band front. Success, sold out shows, big fan showing, big hair, lots of makeup, all that the Crüe had. BUT, in the category of "screaming rock band" and "reigning supreme," it's Maiden all the way. They don't call Bruce Dickinson "the air raid siren" for nothing, and as for reigning supreme, Maiden rocks longer, louder, and harder (and frequently more intelligently) than just about anybody else. Again, distinction of hair band. Actually, I don't really think of G'n'R as a hair band, I think of them more along the lines of "screaming rock band." I think you can make a good case for G'n'R, but Maiden still wins, in my opinion, for a couple of reasons. 1) Longevity. 2) G'n'R were at least as famous for their ballads ("Patience", "November Rain", "Sweet Child o' Mine" et al.) as they were for their blistering rockers (and their rockers did, indeed, rock). 3) And again, context specific, in the '80s, it's Maiden. G'n'R really started to come into their own, and get the big recognition at the end of the '80s/beginning of the early '90s (yes, I know they were around for a while - [I]Appetite for Destruction[/I] was a 1987 release; it picked up steam fast). I've clearly established myself as a semantics monkey on this, so I'll just keep that train rollin'. :D Excellent point on Metallica, stevelabny. Maiden also survived. Maybe not as much in the U.S. (where they've always had a harder time breaking big anyway; Europe and the rest of the world loves 'em, but the U.S. mainstream media never shows the love, even if they have many devoted U.S. fans), but they're still cranking out good albums (like any artist, they've had a few that weren't so great). So if survival is an indicator of reigning supreme, I still say Maiden. Dickinson's voice [B]still[/B] screams - he doesn't appear to have lost any power over the years, and the band's playing continues to unfold in diverse, interesting, complex ways (as a bass player, everytime I listen to a new Maiden offering, I marvel at Steve Harris' compositions and lines. How does he do that?) Also, Bon Jovi: screaming rock band? Hmmm . . . maybe. Hair band? Maybe. Pop metal rocker with part time acting career? That feels more like it to me. 'Tallica. I love 'em, too, and have ever since my introduction to them (I heard [I]Master of Puppets[/I] first), and they are truly a giant in the music world (as they should be), but I don't think of them as "screaming rock band." I certainly don't think of them as a hair band. I do think they're thrash/speed metal/true heavy metal, a category or series of categories in which Warrant and Skid Row do not fall, I think. Metallica has also had tremendous longevity, as you note, and so maybe they would stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Maiden in the '80s. [I]Master of Puppets[/I] is still one of the all-time single greatest metal contributions ever, as far as I'm concerned, and over the years they have continued to do interesting things with music, and having seen them live three times, I can definitely say they really rock. So, good call on Metallica. And now that I've thought and talked about this [B]way[/B] too much, it's time to get some coffee! :D Warrior Poet [/QUOTE]
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