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<blockquote data-quote="lottrbacchus" data-source="post: 3378938" data-attributes="member: 48191">thanks all for the replies.@I2000 - what you say is true but here is more of what was on my mind- i don't want them flying all over the place mainly in 'campaign mode'.&nbsp; there are all sorts of things i want them to meet that they would flat out miss if they flew everywhere.but then i was concerned about taking away something tactically powerful, so that encounters ranked at party level would often be too challenging.&nbsp; by the same token, i wanted to see how powerful other people think wings are- if they are only part of an ecl +1 (as the templates suggest) then dropping the wings and 1 ecl would make them a bit too powerful.soooo- in the end i am actually going to drop the wings and give them each another character level (if you here loud woo hooing from central europe, that will be them), because there are only two characters (they each had two characters before, but now only 1).&nbsp; that does drop the party level from 11 to 9, but i believe a party of 4 ninth level characters are stronger than a party of 2 seventh level half celestials.&nbsp; this is especially true since i requested that they multi-class, and in my experience a straight 7th level character is more powerful (though less flexible) than a 4th/3rd.&nbsp; 4th level cleric spells versus 2nd, etc.anyhow- thanks again everyone for the replies.&nbsp; i really like this board (though i wish the searh function worked for me...)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="lottrbacchus, post: 3378938, member: 48191"] thanks all for the replies. @I2000 - what you say is true but here is more of what was on my mind- i don't want them flying all over the place mainly in 'campaign mode'. there are all sorts of things i want them to meet that they would flat out miss if they flew everywhere. but then i was concerned about taking away something tactically powerful, so that encounters ranked at party level would often be too challenging. by the same token, i wanted to see how powerful other people think wings are- if they are only part of an ecl +1 (as the templates suggest) then dropping the wings and 1 ecl would make them a bit too powerful. soooo- in the end i am actually going to drop the wings and give them each another character level (if you here loud woo hooing from central europe, that will be them), because there are only two characters (they each had two characters before, but now only 1). that does drop the party level from 11 to 9, but i believe a party of 4 ninth level characters are stronger than a party of 2 seventh level half celestials. this is especially true since i requested that they multi-class, and in my experience a straight 7th level character is more powerful (though less flexible) than a 4th/3rd. 4th level cleric spells versus 2nd, etc. anyhow- thanks again everyone for the replies. i really like this board (though i wish the searh function worked for me...) [/QUOTE]

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