Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Million Dollar TTRPG Crowdfunders
Most Anticipated Tabletop RPGs Of The Year
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
ShortQuests -- Pocket Sized Adventures! An all-new collection of digest-sized D&D adventures designed for 1-2 game sessions.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Half-Dragon Template Class vs. Dragon Disciple
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Shayuri" data-source="post: 1125620" data-attributes="member: 4936"><p>Other considerations.</p><p></p><p>The 3.5 Dragon Disciple is changed in several ways, and those changes make the end result somewhat different (and superior to) the half dragon template alone.</p><p></p><p>Specifically, at 5th level you gain Blindsense at 60'...which the half dragon template does not grant. Then, at 9th level, you gain wings no matter what your size is...half dragon template only grants wings if you are Large or larger.</p><p></p><p>And of course, a warrior with a single level of Sorceror can use all those bonus spell slots to cast a TON of Shield, True Strike...etc... The low level buff spells.</p><p></p><p>I've been playing a "dragon themed" sorceror for a long time now in an ongoing campaign, and my GM and I went through several different iterations. Dragon Disciple is, in the end NOT a spellcasting class, despite its requirements. It is a class for warriors, who take a "burn level" in sorceror. A character build like that can become stupidly powerful.</p><p></p><p>For casters...well, it's harder. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> My GM and I came to a special dispensation and invented a +1 ECL "dragonblooded" character race that's patterned after Planetouched.</p><p></p><p>+1 ECL isn't too much for a little flavor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shayuri, post: 1125620, member: 4936"] Other considerations. The 3.5 Dragon Disciple is changed in several ways, and those changes make the end result somewhat different (and superior to) the half dragon template alone. Specifically, at 5th level you gain Blindsense at 60'...which the half dragon template does not grant. Then, at 9th level, you gain wings no matter what your size is...half dragon template only grants wings if you are Large or larger. And of course, a warrior with a single level of Sorceror can use all those bonus spell slots to cast a TON of Shield, True Strike...etc... The low level buff spells. I've been playing a "dragon themed" sorceror for a long time now in an ongoing campaign, and my GM and I went through several different iterations. Dragon Disciple is, in the end NOT a spellcasting class, despite its requirements. It is a class for warriors, who take a "burn level" in sorceror. A character build like that can become stupidly powerful. For casters...well, it's harder. :) My GM and I came to a special dispensation and invented a +1 ECL "dragonblooded" character race that's patterned after Planetouched. +1 ECL isn't too much for a little flavor. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Half-Dragon Template Class vs. Dragon Disciple
Top