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<blockquote data-quote="Black Knight Irios" data-source="post: 5229999" data-attributes="member: 8853">Ok we have got a lvl5 Half-Elf Ranger (dual wielder) w/ suboptimal stat placement that wants to dabble in controler.-Maybe redistribute her ability scores to match her specific needs.--Does she want to raise STR/WIS or STR/DEX?If sliding is enough control for her try using lightning weapons (PHB1) + mark of storm (EPG - I see no reason those marks can't be refluffed for whatever world you play in) add rushing cleats if you like and you've got slide 2 on all attacks.If she wants to slide at range try lighting weapon (main) and farbond spellblade (off) (AV2) [I assume she uses heavy blades given her low stats] and Dilettant Power (Elemental Spirits (PHB3)) take Versatile Master (lvl11) to make it a true at-will. Anyway if she goes STR/WIS any Seeker at-will can provide ranged control.Then again an archer (DEX/WIS) ranger MC (seeker) might be yet better. You could probably change her race to elf as well.There are probably many options that are by far better than a ranger MC (invoker) if you want to add some control.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Black Knight Irios, post: 5229999, member: 8853"] Ok we have got a lvl5 Half-Elf Ranger (dual wielder) w/ suboptimal stat placement that wants to dabble in controler. -Maybe redistribute her ability scores to match her specific needs. --Does she want to raise STR/WIS or STR/DEX? If sliding is enough control for her try using lightning weapons (PHB1) + mark of storm (EPG - I see no reason those marks can't be refluffed for whatever world you play in) add rushing cleats if you like and you've got slide 2 on all attacks. If she wants to slide at range try lighting weapon (main) and farbond spellblade (off) (AV2) [I assume she uses heavy blades given her low stats] and Dilettant Power (Elemental Spirits (PHB3)) take Versatile Master (lvl11) to make it a true at-will. Anyway if she goes STR/WIS any Seeker at-will can provide ranged control. Then again an archer (DEX/WIS) ranger MC (seeker) might be yet better. You could probably change her race to elf as well. There are probably many options that are by far better than a ranger MC (invoker) if you want to add some control. [/QUOTE]

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