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<blockquote data-quote="Seeten" data-source="post: 2880572" data-attributes="member: 27186">I disagree strongly with your assertions. Low-Light vision isnt worth anything close to a feat. Humans are MORE than capable of being played intelligently, and using cover and corners to make the mad half-elf bowman into a guy standing around doing nothing. Further, thats so situational as to be comical. What if the same dungeon has torch brackets every 8 feet? While I guess the human just beats him down then.All else being equal, as opposed to tactical genius in the perfect situation v utter moron, all else being equal, half-elves are weak mechanically.To be quite serious, I am sure I could play a race with a -4 on every stat and still make a character that wasnt &quot;useless&quot;. That does not make the race good, nor does it make it desirable. It makes it terrible, but playable.The fact that half-elves remain playable does not make them any better mechanically, and it still puts them at or near the very bottom of the LA +0 ladder, right above Kobolds, who are pure awfulness. At least Kobolds have the &quot;Treated as a Dragon&quot; effect tacked on...lol, nvm, still awful. Dazzled in bright light in addition. The hits just keep coming. And thats the only race, offhand, I personally consider worse than half-elf.I'm a big fan of diplomacy, too. Half-Elves are still worthless. IMO. YMMV =)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Seeten, post: 2880572, member: 27186"] I disagree strongly with your assertions. Low-Light vision isnt worth anything close to a feat. Humans are MORE than capable of being played intelligently, and using cover and corners to make the mad half-elf bowman into a guy standing around doing nothing. Further, thats so situational as to be comical. What if the same dungeon has torch brackets every 8 feet? While I guess the human just beats him down then. All else being equal, as opposed to tactical genius in the perfect situation v utter moron, all else being equal, half-elves are weak mechanically. To be quite serious, I am sure I could play a race with a -4 on every stat and still make a character that wasnt "useless". That does not make the race good, nor does it make it desirable. It makes it terrible, but playable. The fact that half-elves remain playable does not make them any better mechanically, and it still puts them at or near the very bottom of the LA +0 ladder, right above Kobolds, who are pure awfulness. At least Kobolds have the "Treated as a Dragon" effect tacked on...lol, nvm, still awful. Dazzled in bright light in addition. The hits just keep coming. And thats the only race, offhand, I personally consider worse than half-elf. I'm a big fan of diplomacy, too. Half-Elves are still worthless. IMO. YMMV =) [/QUOTE]

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