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<blockquote data-quote="Votan" data-source="post: 2890699" data-attributes="member: 18680">I think (and have tried to argue on a related thread) that the issue is the Half Elf is (except for one extreme niche case) not the best at anything.&nbsp; All of the other races will have a specialty that makes them shine.&nbsp; Half Elf is the best race for no class and is an adequete one for surprisingly few.&nbsp; Now, bad does not mean completely useless.&nbsp; The Kobold is another &quot;niche&quot; race that can do a highly limited of classes and it isn't impossible to have a highly successful Kbobold character.&nbsp; Elves are widely regarded as subpar (including by me) but my 2 favorite characters in D&amp;D to date were an Elf Paladin and an elf druid (who focused on being an archer and never wildshaped even once).&nbsp; Still, it is poor design for a race to lag.&nbsp; However, it may be that you can enjoy succeeding despite a race that handicaps you.&nbsp; In particular, it is a good choice for an optimizer in a group of non-optimizers -- your character will be much less brutally effective if you try and optimize a &quot;subpar&quot; element of the design.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Votan, post: 2890699, member: 18680"] I think (and have tried to argue on a related thread) that the issue is the Half Elf is (except for one extreme niche case) not the best at anything. All of the other races will have a specialty that makes them shine. Half Elf is the best race for no class and is an adequete one for surprisingly few. Now, bad does not mean completely useless. The Kobold is another "niche" race that can do a highly limited of classes and it isn't impossible to have a highly successful Kbobold character. Elves are widely regarded as subpar (including by me) but my 2 favorite characters in D&D to date were an Elf Paladin and an elf druid (who focused on being an archer and never wildshaped even once). Still, it is poor design for a race to lag. However, it may be that you can enjoy succeeding despite a race that handicaps you. In particular, it is a good choice for an optimizer in a group of non-optimizers -- your character will be much less brutally effective if you try and optimize a "subpar" element of the design. [/QUOTE]

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