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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aguirre" data-source="post: 1543706" data-attributes="member: 16080">Well, I don't have the savage species books, and I haven't really familiarized myself with new rules pertaining to level adjustment in the 3.5 edition.  That said, why not just take the half-orc and double it?  Then add some clumsy and toughness:+4 Str-2 Dex+2 Con-4 Int-4 ChaKeep the darkvision, drop the natural armor class.  It's not strong to the extreme that it was before, but it's not *that* much bigger than a half-orc (still size medium).  It's not as charismatic, but it can take a toll on your self-esteem, growing up a half-giant in either human or giant society.I think this is similar, and actually less powerful, than the minotaur from the published Dragonlance campaign setting.Why isn't that +0 level adjustment?</blockquote>