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<blockquote data-quote="DM_Matt" data-source="post: 994676" data-attributes="member: 1213">It doesnt take being at 15th.&nbsp; At fifth, the difference is pretty big, too.&nbsp; By then, you are only .5 hp behind, have that big ol +6 str, have reach and large size (their benefits outweigh the penalties), Nat Armor +4, and you both have weapon spec by then, and the same number of feats (altohugh the reg fighter gets feats at even levels and you at odd now).Also, many fighters develop their bonuses similarly.&nbsp; Everyone gets focus, spec, their fighting style's feat chain, good armor at increasing plusses, stat-boostsing items, etc.&nbsp; Generally a fighter is pretty set by mid-high levels.&nbsp; It is thus the MARGINAL benefits that make the Half Ogre overpowered.&nbsp; That one level gives them access to permanent large size and huge racial stat bonuses that cannot be duplicated other ways (at least permanently).&nbsp; Another fighter can buy slightly better nat armor items, but again it puts the ogre way ahead of the game. Heck, since nat armor only goes up to +5,&nbsp; he can save a ton of money and just upgrade his natural armor with a feat, which fighters eventually have in excess.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DM_Matt, post: 994676, member: 1213"] It doesnt take being at 15th. At fifth, the difference is pretty big, too. By then, you are only .5 hp behind, have that big ol +6 str, have reach and large size (their benefits outweigh the penalties), Nat Armor +4, and you both have weapon spec by then, and the same number of feats (altohugh the reg fighter gets feats at even levels and you at odd now). Also, many fighters develop their bonuses similarly. Everyone gets focus, spec, their fighting style's feat chain, good armor at increasing plusses, stat-boostsing items, etc. Generally a fighter is pretty set by mid-high levels. It is thus the MARGINAL benefits that make the Half Ogre overpowered. That one level gives them access to permanent large size and huge racial stat bonuses that cannot be duplicated other ways (at least permanently). Another fighter can buy slightly better nat armor items, but again it puts the ogre way ahead of the game. Heck, since nat armor only goes up to +5, he can save a ton of money and just upgrade his natural armor with a feat, which fighters eventually have in excess. [/QUOTE]

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