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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bagpuss" data-source="post: 780366" data-attributes="member: 3987">Never seen a half-elf or a half-orc PC but then we haven't had a whole lot of PC's in our D&D games yet.I don't think the half-orc is underpowered, its just so boring. Its +2 Str and that's it nothing else except drawbacks.At the moment if you take a Half-Orc you play a Barbarian or Fighter or you play a weaker character.The double attribute penalty hits a wide range of classes, making them much less appealing. The Sorerer, Wizard, Druid, Cleric, Bard and Ranger in each one or both of your useful attributes takes a hit to just so you get the 'powerful' +2 Str (which isn't that powerful to a lot of those classes), sure it makes a great racial sterotype but its boring.Something nice but having very little game effect like say+2 to Wilderness Lore checks as they have learned to survive away from societies that shuns them.Every other none human race get some skill bonuses.Not a significant change but it might make a player consider it for a Ranger PC.</blockquote>