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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 369387" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>The reason halflings wouldn't be proficient with skiprocks is that they're used to throwing normal rocks--you know the kind that don't bounce off one opponent and into another.</p><p></p><p>Now as far as racial proficiencies go, it probably wouldn't screw up balance very much to give out a few simple and martial weapon proficiencies (or maybe even ineffective exotic weapons like the great crossbow from S&F). However, giving away effective exotic weapon proficiencies (bastard sword, dwarven waraxe, orc double axe, etc) would unbalance the races. At the moment, there is no race which makes a better fighter because of the racial proficiencies they are given. Elvish fighters are proficient with swords and bows anyway and consequently gain no bonus from the proficiencies. Giving dwarves dwarven waraxe proficiency, for example would give them the same number of effective feats as a human fighter (able to get exotic weapon prof, power attack, and cleave at lvl 1) in addition to all the bonusses they get at the moment. It probably wouldn't be too unbalancing but it wouldn't be a good. Just because it won't instantly doom your game doesn't make it a good thing.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, my take on all those "racially named" weapons was that they were weapons developed by that race but not exclusively used by that race. A dwarven waraxe is a big axe that some dwarves are famous for using, not a weapon that all dwarves use. Similarly, a halfling skiprock is an odd weapon developed by halflings not a weapon that all halflings know how to use. Same for the elven thinblade.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 369387, member: 3146"] The reason halflings wouldn't be proficient with skiprocks is that they're used to throwing normal rocks--you know the kind that don't bounce off one opponent and into another. Now as far as racial proficiencies go, it probably wouldn't screw up balance very much to give out a few simple and martial weapon proficiencies (or maybe even ineffective exotic weapons like the great crossbow from S&F). However, giving away effective exotic weapon proficiencies (bastard sword, dwarven waraxe, orc double axe, etc) would unbalance the races. At the moment, there is no race which makes a better fighter because of the racial proficiencies they are given. Elvish fighters are proficient with swords and bows anyway and consequently gain no bonus from the proficiencies. Giving dwarves dwarven waraxe proficiency, for example would give them the same number of effective feats as a human fighter (able to get exotic weapon prof, power attack, and cleave at lvl 1) in addition to all the bonusses they get at the moment. It probably wouldn't be too unbalancing but it wouldn't be a good. Just because it won't instantly doom your game doesn't make it a good thing. Anyway, my take on all those "racially named" weapons was that they were weapons developed by that race but not exclusively used by that race. A dwarven waraxe is a big axe that some dwarves are famous for using, not a weapon that all dwarves use. Similarly, a halfling skiprock is an odd weapon developed by halflings not a weapon that all halflings know how to use. Same for the elven thinblade. [/QUOTE]
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