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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 369615" data-attributes="member: 2525">It says throwing stones.&nbsp; The &quot;halfing stones&quot; were not detailed until S&amp;F, the first splat book, but I believe the intent was to provide detail on the &quot;halfling stones&quot;. If it isn't the skiprocks, then the halflings should be proficient with throwing stones of some kind, no matter their class.&nbsp; And thrown stones DO some damage.&nbsp; If they should not have this proficiency, tell me why they shouldn't?Unique or special was what I was talking about.&nbsp; For elves, it is special.&nbsp; And it's a huge advantage for the non-combat classes to have that proficiency.&nbsp; Far more of an advantage, I think, that allowing the couple of special race-specific items we are talking about.The orc-blood and elf-blood entries say &quot;special orc weapons&quot; and &quot;elven weapons&quot; (respectively).&nbsp; They ALSO say &quot;magic items with racially specific orc powers&quot; and &quot;magic items with racially specific elven powers&quot; (respectively).&nbsp; That means there are mundane, non-magical special orc weapons and elven weapons that half-orcs and half-elves can use, even if they did not grow up in an orc or elf community.&nbsp; Why would that be? How about because it is in their blood, as the orc-blood and elf-blood entries imply.&nbsp; Can you give me a better reason why the &quot;blood&quot; entry would specify use of special orc/elf weapons for these halfbreeds?Because, as someone already said, they are virtually useless weapons without the ambidexterity and two-weapon fighting feats.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 369615, member: 2525"] It says throwing [i]stones[/i]. The "halfing stones" were not detailed until S&F, the first splat book, but I believe the intent was to provide detail on the "halfling stones". If it isn't the skiprocks, then the halflings should be proficient with throwing stones of some kind, no matter their class. And thrown stones DO some damage. If they should not have this proficiency, tell me why they shouldn't? Unique or special was what I was talking about. For elves, it is special. And it's a huge advantage for the non-combat classes to have that proficiency. Far more of an advantage, I think, that allowing the couple of special race-specific items we are talking about. The orc-blood and elf-blood entries say "special orc weapons" and "elven weapons" (respectively). They ALSO say "magic items with racially specific orc powers" and "magic items with racially specific elven powers" (respectively). That means there are mundane, non-magical special orc weapons and elven weapons that half-orcs and half-elves can use, even if they did not grow up in an orc or elf community. Why would that be? How about because it is in their blood, as the orc-blood and elf-blood entries imply. Can you give me a better reason why the "blood" entry would specify use of special orc/elf weapons for these halfbreeds? Because, as someone already said, they are virtually useless weapons without the ambidexterity and two-weapon fighting feats. [/QUOTE]

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