Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Half-orcs and why people think they are/aren't powerful
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Shin Okada" data-source="post: 1670973" data-attributes="member: 1956"><p>I have been using 32 pts-buy for most of the games since the release of 3.0e. And have been in play groups which heavy dungeon crawling. And, never heard of any complain about Half-Orcs from my off-line friends.</p><p></p><p>*Regarding Dice-Roll vs Point-Buy</p><p></p><p>It is somewhat true that with Point-Buy rule, one can maximize the effectiveness of racial bonuses and minimize the penalty of racial penalties.</p><p></p><p>But, regarding Dice-Roll, we must also consider the method of dice-rolling. How many dices do you use to roll one ability (say, roll 4 and take 3, roll 9 and take 3, and such). How many times do you re-roll characters? (Just once, until you get certain total number of ability modifiers, until you get at least one 18, and such). The probability to get higher/lower stats will be drastically changes by method to method.</p><p></p><p>*Small Race</p><p></p><p>IMHO, actually, small races are quite weak from power-gaming point of view. They are slow. Low-strength and the smaller weapon damage making it very hard to be a good melee combatants. And -4 penalty for various special attacks really hurts.</p><p></p><p>I have seen many small combatants, even finesse-type rogues, died because of their small size. Swallowed, tripped, disarmed, and such. Small arcane casters are doing so-so. And actually, Gnome wizards are doing very well. But that seems to be the only "good" combination.</p><p></p><p>in my play group, Halflings are considered to be the most "weak" core race. They can't be a good melee combatants. As spell-casters, Gnomes are much better (low-light vision and high Con). They suck even as rogues. Slow (harder to take a flanking position), no low-light vision nor dark-vision, and small (bud for melee type rogues)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shin Okada, post: 1670973, member: 1956"] I have been using 32 pts-buy for most of the games since the release of 3.0e. And have been in play groups which heavy dungeon crawling. And, never heard of any complain about Half-Orcs from my off-line friends. *Regarding Dice-Roll vs Point-Buy It is somewhat true that with Point-Buy rule, one can maximize the effectiveness of racial bonuses and minimize the penalty of racial penalties. But, regarding Dice-Roll, we must also consider the method of dice-rolling. How many dices do you use to roll one ability (say, roll 4 and take 3, roll 9 and take 3, and such). How many times do you re-roll characters? (Just once, until you get certain total number of ability modifiers, until you get at least one 18, and such). The probability to get higher/lower stats will be drastically changes by method to method. *Small Race IMHO, actually, small races are quite weak from power-gaming point of view. They are slow. Low-strength and the smaller weapon damage making it very hard to be a good melee combatants. And -4 penalty for various special attacks really hurts. I have seen many small combatants, even finesse-type rogues, died because of their small size. Swallowed, tripped, disarmed, and such. Small arcane casters are doing so-so. And actually, Gnome wizards are doing very well. But that seems to be the only "good" combination. in my play group, Halflings are considered to be the most "weak" core race. They can't be a good melee combatants. As spell-casters, Gnomes are much better (low-light vision and high Con). They suck even as rogues. Slow (harder to take a flanking position), no low-light vision nor dark-vision, and small (bud for melee type rogues) [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Half-orcs and why people think they are/aren't powerful
Top