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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9108175" data-attributes="member: 7006">My apologies, I probably didn't explain myself well.You made the case that the separation between most powerful to least powerful classes were 10/10 to 7/10, so a difference of 3 points, but that most powerful to least powerful species were 10/10 to 1/10, a difference of 9 points.  Thus the implication being that the separation between best and worst for species was the bigger deal.  But I was trying to get across that I thought you were using the wrong difference of scale.Because 20 levels of classes hold so much more power all told... I felt the class difference should be written as 100/100 to 70/100, a 30-point difference in power-- compared to species still at 10/10 to 1/10, a 10-point difference.  And thus even if the best-to-worse classes are closer together in and of themselves... when compared to the power that species traits give, that disparity I feel blows species separation out of the water.In my opinion it doesn't matter how far apart species traits are, because they get completely overwhelmed and subsumed by class abilities after like Level 3, so any disparity at that point is negligible.  I also feel mix-maxing species traits is silly because any of their powers are so weak compared to what a player gets from classes... but because some players do care, WotC should just make sure to devise a system that won't allow a complete mixing-and-matching (and this possibly allow for groupings that those players would say was overpowered.)</blockquote>

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