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<blockquote data-quote="Eldorian" data-source="post: 768885" data-attributes="member: 10504">Quote savage species all you want, i neighter own the book nor plan on it.&nbsp; I've looked through it enough to decide that I can do better.&nbsp; The templates might be nice, but the spells and feats in there are for the most part overpowered, and almost all the ECLs are off.&nbsp; As for you&nbsp; quad hitting minotaur.. um.. what weapons is he fighting with?&nbsp; A treeman uses its fists to slam, how exactly does it wield two weapons and punch in the same round?&nbsp; Next you'll tell me that half fiends can claw and stab with swords at the same time...As for the HD being equal cause they're simply all d8s.. um... monsterous humaoids get fighter bab, whereas plants, giants, and humanoids all get cleric.&nbsp; Monsterous humanoid get 2 good save tracks, the other HD only get one.&nbsp; How can these be equal?&nbsp; Is a cleric with fighter bab equal to a cleric with his old BAB?&nbsp; Sigh...Eldorian Antar</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Eldorian, post: 768885, member: 10504"] Quote savage species all you want, i neighter own the book nor plan on it. I've looked through it enough to decide that I can do better. The templates might be nice, but the spells and feats in there are for the most part overpowered, and almost all the ECLs are off. As for you quad hitting minotaur.. um.. what weapons is he fighting with? A treeman uses its fists to slam, how exactly does it wield two weapons and punch in the same round? Next you'll tell me that half fiends can claw and stab with swords at the same time... As for the HD being equal cause they're simply all d8s.. um... monsterous humaoids get fighter bab, whereas plants, giants, and humanoids all get cleric. Monsterous humanoid get 2 good save tracks, the other HD only get one. How can these be equal? Is a cleric with fighter bab equal to a cleric with his old BAB? Sigh... Eldorian Antar [/QUOTE]

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