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<blockquote data-quote="Hawkshere" data-source="post: 3148575" data-attributes="member: 2417"><p>I considered House Rules, but I wanted to vet this design from a rules perspective. The human racial traits (bonus feat and skill ranks) are definitely house-rulesy from a scope perspective. Ignoring that, the rest of the design was intended to conform to the rules; its not like I made this all up from thin air.</p><p></p><p>I guess the question is, if someone were to design a new monster, and wanted to check the design with the rules guru community, would they be better served by posting it here or in House Rules? If this really belongs in House Rules, then by all means move it; I apologize if I posted this here in error.</p><p></p><p>In any case, I appreciate the feedback!</p><p></p><p>"Powerful Build"--ala Goliaths? That's an interesting idea. Is there a feat that offers this effect, or would this be a good custom feat?</p><p></p><p>The human racial traits are definitely a little outside the box, but the player wanted a character whose personality was still essentially human, who was not born with troll racial features. The idea from a rules perspective is that the base creature is human, with the half-troll template added to that.</p><p></p><p>I considered Disable Device for the skill penalty, and its still on the table. An argument could be made that there are some devices (based on size) that could still be manipulated by such a creature. The skills I included were ones I considered to be clearly impacted by razor-sharp clawed fingers. This penalty also falls into the "house rules" domain, since I made this one up. It was mostly intended as flavor.</p><p></p><p>The rest of it is a combination of the Fiend Folio half-troll template, the Savage Species troll class, the 3.5 MM troll, and the general rules for the Giant type. The FF template is, in summary:</p><p></p><p>Natural Armor +4</p><p>Bite & Claw Damage</p><p>SA: Rend</p><p>SQ: Darkvision 60', Fast Healing 5, & Scent</p><p>Abilities: Str +6, Dex +2, Con +6, Int –2, Cha –2</p><p></p><p>This template is listed as CR +2 and LA +4. From my reading of Savage Species, this is a 1 HD base creature with a +4 LA template, resulting in a ECL 5 character. Compare this to the ECL 11 troll racial class in Savage Species.</p><p></p><p>Note that while the template does include the normal troll features (except low-light; that appers to be a change between 3.0 and 3.5 trolls), most of them are watered down to some degree (fast heal vs. regeneration, darkvision 60' vs. 90', etc.). The HD, BAB, saves, and skill ranks were all derived from the Giant type. This is where I had to thrash around with the rules quite a bit, and was hoping for a validation check from the rules gurus.</p><p></p><p>In fact, I just found one myself - the rend damage for a medium character is 2d4; I think that was a cut & paste faux pas. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hawkshere, post: 3148575, member: 2417"] I considered House Rules, but I wanted to vet this design from a rules perspective. The human racial traits (bonus feat and skill ranks) are definitely house-rulesy from a scope perspective. Ignoring that, the rest of the design was intended to conform to the rules; its not like I made this all up from thin air. I guess the question is, if someone were to design a new monster, and wanted to check the design with the rules guru community, would they be better served by posting it here or in House Rules? If this really belongs in House Rules, then by all means move it; I apologize if I posted this here in error. In any case, I appreciate the feedback! "Powerful Build"--ala Goliaths? That's an interesting idea. Is there a feat that offers this effect, or would this be a good custom feat? The human racial traits are definitely a little outside the box, but the player wanted a character whose personality was still essentially human, who was not born with troll racial features. The idea from a rules perspective is that the base creature is human, with the half-troll template added to that. I considered Disable Device for the skill penalty, and its still on the table. An argument could be made that there are some devices (based on size) that could still be manipulated by such a creature. The skills I included were ones I considered to be clearly impacted by razor-sharp clawed fingers. This penalty also falls into the "house rules" domain, since I made this one up. It was mostly intended as flavor. The rest of it is a combination of the Fiend Folio half-troll template, the Savage Species troll class, the 3.5 MM troll, and the general rules for the Giant type. The FF template is, in summary: Natural Armor +4 Bite & Claw Damage SA: Rend SQ: Darkvision 60', Fast Healing 5, & Scent Abilities: Str +6, Dex +2, Con +6, Int –2, Cha –2 This template is listed as CR +2 and LA +4. From my reading of Savage Species, this is a 1 HD base creature with a +4 LA template, resulting in a ECL 5 character. Compare this to the ECL 11 troll racial class in Savage Species. Note that while the template does include the normal troll features (except low-light; that appers to be a change between 3.0 and 3.5 trolls), most of them are watered down to some degree (fast heal vs. regeneration, darkvision 60' vs. 90', etc.). The HD, BAB, saves, and skill ranks were all derived from the Giant type. This is where I had to thrash around with the rules quite a bit, and was hoping for a validation check from the rules gurus. In fact, I just found one myself - the rend damage for a medium character is 2d4; I think that was a cut & paste faux pas. :p [/QUOTE]
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