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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ilbranteloth" data-source="post: 6351249" data-attributes="member: 6778044">Well, I would say if you are not hiding then you are no longer hidden. Which is the result of your position being known.The fact that your position is known prevents you from being able to attempt to hide again unless the circumstances change.In an absurd example, you're hiding behind a lone tree in a middle of a field. You suddenly lean out a fire an arrow at your opponent. Aside from the fact that you're hidden and have advantage, you also have a good chance of surprising them. Then you duck back behind the tree.And you've lost your advantage. You could 'attempt' to hide again. But it won't fool your opponent. Sure you could teleport, or turn invisible and move someplace else, but unless he suspects you have actually done that, the next time you lean out and fire an arrow he'll be expecting it. Because he knows you're there.Now if you make a stealth check, and succeed in stealthily climbing up the tree, you could certainly attempt to hide again. He rushes up, jumps to the back of the tree to attack and...you're gone. It probably won't take long for him to figure it out, but by then it's too late. You have advantage again. Because you're not where he expected.There are many circumstances that I can think of that WOULD allow you to attempt to hide again after being discovered. They all revolve around eitherfooling the opponent into thinking you are someplace else,moving to a new location without them knowing,a distraction that draws their entire attention away from you so you can...move to a new location without them knowing or fool them into thinking you are someplace else,or some sort of concealment like being down a dark and shadowy corridor with a torch between you and the opponent, or firing from the woods into the field where the opponent is (and you can easily make stealth/hide checks due to the concealment of the woods).If you're firing from the woods, but don't move, after the 2nd, or best case scenario, 3rd attack they'll figure it out and you won't have advantage anymore.You gain advantage on your attack because the opponent isn't expecting to be attacked from your present location. You might not have moved, that's true. But if you haven't then you're exactly where they expect you to be. If you're where they expect you to be, no advantage.As I noted before, each DM and campaign can interpret the rules as they feel is appropriate and works for them. But based on the rules, and the specific way in which they are written, combined with what makes sense to me, once you are discovered you cannot hide again just because you want to.This is how I adjudicate it in my campaign, and is pretty much the same as how I've done it since the '70s. The effects (advantage) are different, but I like the way the new mechanic works. But the circumstances under which you're able to attempt to hide haven't changed.It doesn't take long for creative players to find all sorts of way to set up opportunities to hide anyway. But that's what I want - they have to find a way to set up an opportunity once their opponent knows they are there. Not just say "I hide behind the fighter" and roll the dice.Tell me how you intend to hide behind the fighter (again) and at the same time convince your opponent that you aren't there? Put together a coordinated deception with your party to make it happen? That's awesome, and you'll have your chance (and probably at a bonus).Randy</blockquote>

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