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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 4014810" data-attributes="member: 11760">Do you see the logical fallacy here?Your experience with your groups is no more likely to be representative of the whole of RPGdom than my experience. My experience, incidentally, directly contradicts yours: I've been playing since 1979, and I've never seen anyone play a tiefling or anything of the sort. In contrast, I've seen dozens of halflings played and more than a half-dozen gnomes (including two I'm DMing currently).Er, Will of the Forsaken is arguably the best racial ability in WoW. That's a real factor in the race's popularity. Shadowmelding for night elves is also pretty great, particularly in PVP and on PVP servers.But the point isn't what race is most popular. Of course it's human and elves. The question is what other races are worth including. Since the audience for niche races, by definition, isn't the same as the folks who just want to play humans and elves, it's not particularly informative to say "yep, humans and elves are the most popular."Would people prefer a PHB with just humans and several flavors of elf, or would they prefer humans, elves and a number of niche races? Even if I never play most of the niche races, I'd definitely prefer the latter. The question is just which to include.</blockquote>