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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 2391592" data-attributes="member: 463"><p>It's definitely going to take a huge amount of editing work to be playable, most especially in the read-aloud text, much of it is unusable as written - my players would lynch me (running Necropolis they nearly did! - I know better now). Looking at another random pane, the PCs appear at a Knight's Tourney, which sounds like potentially a lot of fun, but instead of getting to RP a bit and maybe compete in some events the read-aloud text immediately forces the PCs into what looks like a very frustrating puzzle-solving exercise to 'win' the Pane. _Why_ this is necessary is not explained. No way am I running it as written. In a gamebook it might be acceptable, I don't find it acceptable in an RPG.</p><p></p><p>I really see two editing problems here, as in Necropolis, another Gygaxian LA to d20 conversion:</p><p></p><p>1. Many of the d20 stat blocks really aren't acceptable. Don't have 8th level fighter-types doing d6+1 damage. Don't equip the mercenary army of 4th level Warriors solely with Daggers (!) or the army of 3rd level orcs with padded armour & small clubs (WTF?) :\</p><p></p><p>2. The Gygaxian prose - in small doses this is great, flavourful stuff. I almost wish EGG were still restricted to 32pp to write th module in, that would help a lot. Some of the read-alouds in HoMP go on for more than an entire page! And like I said, far too often they tell the PCs what they're doing, what they're thinking etc. A player of mine commented last night re Necropolis that the natural reaction to Rogue PCs being told "Of course you do not use stealth here in approaching, that would be dishonorable.." is to do the exact opposite.</p><p>I don't know if Troll Lords and Necromancer are scared of chopping away chunks of the great man's purple prose, but trust me, the modules would really have benefitted.</p><p></p><p>I still think HoMP looks very promising, but it is going to require a lot of work, work that one might have expected the paid editors & adapters to already have done. I will continue reading through it and I expect one day I will use large parts of it IMC - but definitely not as written.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 2391592, member: 463"] It's definitely going to take a huge amount of editing work to be playable, most especially in the read-aloud text, much of it is unusable as written - my players would lynch me (running Necropolis they nearly did! - I know better now). Looking at another random pane, the PCs appear at a Knight's Tourney, which sounds like potentially a lot of fun, but instead of getting to RP a bit and maybe compete in some events the read-aloud text immediately forces the PCs into what looks like a very frustrating puzzle-solving exercise to 'win' the Pane. _Why_ this is necessary is not explained. No way am I running it as written. In a gamebook it might be acceptable, I don't find it acceptable in an RPG. I really see two editing problems here, as in Necropolis, another Gygaxian LA to d20 conversion: 1. Many of the d20 stat blocks really aren't acceptable. Don't have 8th level fighter-types doing d6+1 damage. Don't equip the mercenary army of 4th level Warriors solely with Daggers (!) or the army of 3rd level orcs with padded armour & small clubs (WTF?) :\ 2. The Gygaxian prose - in small doses this is great, flavourful stuff. I almost wish EGG were still restricted to 32pp to write th module in, that would help a lot. Some of the read-alouds in HoMP go on for more than an entire page! And like I said, far too often they tell the PCs what they're doing, what they're thinking etc. A player of mine commented last night re Necropolis that the natural reaction to Rogue PCs being told "Of course you do not use stealth here in approaching, that would be dishonorable.." is to do the exact opposite. I don't know if Troll Lords and Necromancer are scared of chopping away chunks of the great man's purple prose, but trust me, the modules would really have benefitted. I still think HoMP looks very promising, but it is going to require a lot of work, work that one might have expected the paid editors & adapters to already have done. I will continue reading through it and I expect one day I will use large parts of it IMC - but definitely not as written. [/QUOTE]
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