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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5868893" data-attributes="member: 9037">Well first of all everyone gets to roll the same way for hit points and stats. And like I said I have never seen anyone come to me with a character's stats that make me go ummm some creative rolling was done here.The same with hit points if people were blatantly cheating they would not say to me I rolled a 1 for my hit points this level.  I have caught players cheating on rolls in the game before both as a player and a DM. I have never narced on them. Because it happens so rarely. When I have seen it happen it is usually because they have been rolling like crap all session and it is obvious they are frustrated and not having any fun.I myself have cheated when I felt the DM was being unfair. When it was obvious that we had no choice and he planned for us to lose.  I don't know if I would cheat now knowing me now I would stand up mid game and walk out.Unless someone is cheating all the time then it is not a big deal for me. If it happened I would talk to the player and find out why they feel the need to do it. I would wonder are they doing it because they feel I am over powering the game or they feel that their character is not as good as others and feels this is the only way to even the playing field. If it was something like that I would look for a solution.If it was because the person can't stand not always being successful then I would ask them to stop and if they couldn't then ask them to find another game.I can't stand cheaters who cheat on board games or strategy games that is being totally dishonest to win taking the victory away from the person who played better.But RPGs is a group activity it does not have winners and losers. If a player cheats on a roll to hit he is not taking victory away from another player. I suppose you could make a case he is taking something from the DM. But the DM has more power and can easily counteract the cheating by tacking on some more hit points to make up for the cheating player. So like I said for the most part it does not bother me as a DM or a player unless it is happening all the time and impacting other people's fun at the game.</blockquote>

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