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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5880795" data-attributes="member: 9037">Anyhoo I was talking about this at dinner tonight with my roommate and fellow gamer. She is a very competitive person in strategy games she plays to win.If someone cheated in a game like that she would be furious and would call them out.As a DM she said she would ignore it if it was not a regular occurrence. I asked her why and she said that with RPGs everyone is involved in telling a story. You play your character for more than one game and you get invested in it.She says that she is fine with a DM fudging the dice or the hit points or what ever to make the game better. So she is willing to cut the same slack to a player. Say a spell is really needed and the wizard did not memorize it but says they did. If it moves the plot along and prevents a TPK then she views that has helping the story along the same way a DM who says they missed a PC instead of killing him.  She also said since as a player she has cheated once and awhile herself when she has gotten really frustrated she is not  going to condemn any one else for doing it.I think it is a matter of degree. Some who is cheating all the time can have an negative impact on the game but then so can a DM who is fudging a lot. I played with a DM whose wife was in the game I and a couple of other players started to feel that he fudged in her favor all the time. She never got knocked to minus figures. If she failed a save she always took minimal damage.  Another DM had an iron grip on the plot and if she felt we were solving things faster than she wanted she would throw all kinds of obstacles in our way or flat out feed us wrong information even if we rolled a great gather info check.Both these DMs were lying to us and they were taking steps to control their game world. And in both these cases I will say that I think the DMs were cheating plain and simple. So like I said it comes around to degree.</blockquote>

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