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<blockquote data-quote="Water Bob" data-source="post: 5886557" data-attributes="member: 92305">The GM playing against the players is never a good idea and a rookie mistake.&nbsp; And, this last part of the thread isn't about how often the GM should fudge rolls.&nbsp; I've said, over and over, that I dislike fudging.&nbsp; I don't think the players like it, and doing it doesn't help me with one of my other GM mandates--that everybody have fun and enjoy the game.&nbsp;But, I've said all along that the GM can't cheat (or that it's OK for the GM to cheat, but not for a player).&nbsp; That he's in charge of keeping his game fun and anything that helps him do that is legal.&nbsp;So, if I had an agreement with the player not to do something, I probably wouldn't do it because doing so would hurt their enjoyment of the game.&nbsp; If I thought I could get away with doing whatever that is that I agreed not to do, not getting caught, with the result being that everybody would enjoy the game that much more, I'd probably do it and break my agreement with the players clandestinly.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because I know that as GM I control everything and my primary job is to ensure that all of us have a good time playing this game.&nbsp; I can't cheat, no matter what I do.&nbsp; I can hurt the &quot;fun&quot; of the game (and I'm loathe to do that), but I can't cheat.&nbsp;Or...it's OK for me to cheat in any way I see fit, if I think it will help make the game more enjoyable.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Water Bob, post: 5886557, member: 92305"] The GM playing against the players is never a good idea and a rookie mistake. And, this last part of the thread isn't about how often the GM should fudge rolls. I've said, over and over, that I dislike fudging. I don't think the players like it, and doing it doesn't help me with one of my other GM mandates--that everybody have fun and enjoy the game. But, I've said all along that the GM can't cheat (or that it's OK for the GM to cheat, but not for a player). That he's in charge of keeping his game fun and anything that helps him do that is legal. So, if I had an agreement with the player not to do something, I probably wouldn't do it because doing so would hurt their enjoyment of the game. If I thought I could get away with doing whatever that is that I agreed not to do, not getting caught, with the result being that everybody would enjoy the game that much more, I'd probably do it and break my agreement with the players clandestinly. Why? Because I know that as GM I control everything and my primary job is to ensure that all of us have a good time playing this game. I can't cheat, no matter what I do. I can hurt the "fun" of the game (and I'm loathe to do that), but I can't cheat. Or...it's OK for me to cheat in any way I see fit, if I think it will help make the game more enjoyable. [/QUOTE]

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