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<blockquote data-quote="MoutonRustique" data-source="post: 7302810" data-attributes="member: 22362">[MENTION=1282]darkbard[/MENTION] - thanks for the not screaming <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />A situation such as you describe is actually one I love : when players take agency into the world, but at the same time not forcing event A or B. They have a stake, but no one actor (as in &quot;person involved in the game&quot; gets to dictate major outcome.)In my particular situations, the two times I canceled a PC action of killing an NPC was when the PCs had been asked by &quot;Powers that Be&quot; within &quot;Rooms of Truths&quot; and then divinely scrutinized as to REAL intent - i.e. this part was role-played only after OoC talk of me asking their characters' true and honest intent, being very clear and upfront about this being a situation in which the truth would be known (as these were deity level entities (party level 4)). And at the moment of the act, they couldn't offer any kind of rational for such a 180 in their belief system in the 3 hours since they were magically searched, plumbed and geased - by Gods...As for certain NPC death, it's usually along the lines of : the NPC was pushed into a pool of acid, and after the player's like &quot;I didn't want to kill him&quot; - then why did you want him to fall in the lake of acid? &quot;... well...&quot; Yeah, no. That guys dead.I know there are narrative to solution to the last one, but they require the player saying that don't want to kill the NPC, when they push him over : i.e., when I ask &quot;Do you want to throw him into the lake of acid? Or just use the acid as extra damage?&quot; And the answer is : &quot;Splash [Samuel Jackson catch-phrase], SPLOOSH!&quot; - then yeah, that dude is outside the realm of &quot;The PC can decide what happens from his &quot;lethal&quot; blow&quot;. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="MoutonRustique, post: 7302810, member: 22362"] [MENTION=1282]darkbard[/MENTION] - thanks for the not screaming :) A situation such as you describe is actually one I [I]love[/I] : when players take agency into the world, but at the same time not [I]forcing[/I] event A or B. They have a stake, but no one actor (as in "person involved in the game" gets to dictate major outcome.) In my particular situations, the two times I canceled a PC action of killing an NPC was when the PCs had been asked by "Powers that Be" within "Rooms of Truths" and then divinely scrutinized as to REAL intent - i.e. this part was role-played only [I]after[/I] OoC talk of me asking their characters' true and honest intent, being very clear and upfront about this being a situation in which the [I]truth[/I] would be known (as these were deity level entities (party level 4)). And at the moment of the act, they couldn't offer any kind of rational for such a 180 in their belief system in the 3 hours since they were magically searched, plumbed and geased - by Gods... As for certain NPC death, it's usually along the lines of : the NPC was pushed into a pool of acid, and [I]after[/I] the player's like "I didn't want to kill him" - then why did you want him to fall in the lake of acid? "... well..." Yeah, no. That guys dead. I know there are narrative to solution to the last one, but they require the player saying that don't want to kill the NPC, [I]when[/I] they push him over : i.e., when I ask "Do you want to throw him into the lake of acid? Or just use the acid as extra damage?" And the answer is : "Splash [Samuel Jackson catch-phrase], SPLOOSH!" - then yeah, that dude is outside the realm of "The PC can decide what happens from his "lethal" blow". ;) [/QUOTE]

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