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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2158757" data-attributes="member: 2011">No, you still save against them.The Fighter is aware that the floor is illusionary and with careful interaction (which he needed anyway to observe the illusion in the first place), he now knows that the floor could be a trap.He just is not specifically aware of where the holes are without possibly a spot roll or prodding the floor.The only thing he did not get is a free "see through an illusion" which is nonsensical actually. It should take True Seeing magic to see through an illusion.What good are illusions that can be seen through (except in Hyp's Fog trick)???Might as well not have made the illusion at all.</blockquote>