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<blockquote data-quote="Euberon" data-source="post: 5612915" data-attributes="member: 91899"><p>I guess we can go with examples and see what we see. </p><p></p><p>So, under your premise that the game system is about amassing power (no argument here), a character's ability to (let's go with bardic performance but it could be painting a portrait, whittling a sculpture, making a sword, etc.) sing a ballad is irrelevant in the world of D&D, if I don't misunderstand. </p><p></p><p>In a social/political game, might it be very relevant? Or do you think those games don't exist or shouldn't exist, just as you insist no one really used crafts or professions? </p><p></p><p>Are you saying that specific skills such as mandolin playing by a bard, crafting jewelry for a countess, hunting for food in a endless forest, and other such examples are not important to any game or just to yours? </p><p></p><p>Are you saying that individual skills are so secondary to D&D without exception that a Warlord and a Bard with the same Diplomacy score should have the same chance to calm a dragon through song, if so desired? </p><p></p><p>Does an athletic fighter who never rode a horse have an equal chance to winning a horse race as a trained cavalryman?</p><p></p><p>These questions are not to be a smart ass but to explore the elementary uses of skills and crafts in games that are clearly different from the one's I assume you experience or prefer based upon your all inclusive generalizations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Euberon, post: 5612915, member: 91899"] I guess we can go with examples and see what we see. So, under your premise that the game system is about amassing power (no argument here), a character's ability to (let's go with bardic performance but it could be painting a portrait, whittling a sculpture, making a sword, etc.) sing a ballad is irrelevant in the world of D&D, if I don't misunderstand. In a social/political game, might it be very relevant? Or do you think those games don't exist or shouldn't exist, just as you insist no one really used crafts or professions? Are you saying that specific skills such as mandolin playing by a bard, crafting jewelry for a countess, hunting for food in a endless forest, and other such examples are not important to any game or just to yours? Are you saying that individual skills are so secondary to D&D without exception that a Warlord and a Bard with the same Diplomacy score should have the same chance to calm a dragon through song, if so desired? Does an athletic fighter who never rode a horse have an equal chance to winning a horse race as a trained cavalryman? These questions are not to be a smart ass but to explore the elementary uses of skills and crafts in games that are clearly different from the one's I assume you experience or prefer based upon your all inclusive generalizations. [/QUOTE]
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