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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dog Moon" data-source="post: 7992484" data-attributes="member: 23023">I always felt that 4e would make the PERFECT tactical rpg, like Final Fantasy Tactics. I mean, movement and powers were already based on squares. I feel like it was a missed opportunity.Although there were things I did like about 4e. I liked the idea of "at-will" powers, I liked Marking, I liked the Warlord and the Spirit Shaman, I liked the Bloodied State. Now, I don't necessarily agree that these were all done perfectly, but they were neat ideas. I felt like 4e had some interesting ideas on Reactions as well, triggered abilities under certain circumstances.Overall, my group tried it, but despite some of the neat ideas, we had a negative view towards it. Which is why we went to Pathfinder. And of course with 5e, our group is now split between 5e and Pathfinder. Which is now unfortunate because no matter which game we play, someone isn't going to like it. [Our group has had a 5e campaign running for a while, so have tried Pathfinder 2e, so don't know what people will think about that yet].</blockquote>