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<blockquote data-quote="Balesir" data-source="post: 6869072" data-attributes="member: 27160">I hate to be picky on this, but I didn't read that there at all - I read the claim that there is a &quot;white male terrorism problem&quot; in gaming, and I think that is absolutely supportable.Just as with other &quot;forms&quot; of terrorism, a significant part of what supports and sustains the terrorism is the unchallenged belief among the real terrorists that they have a passively supportive &quot;culture&quot; or constituency that they are the (possibly somewhat outspoken and aggressive) warriors for. In this fantasy, they may be more outspoken than the rest, but they are just the assertive section of this supposed &quot;culture&quot; that are &quot;standing up for the rights&quot; of the group as a whole.In this sense, the problem indeed is with all (white) males*. Unless all of us (I am male, and white) make it crystal clear that the only &quot;culture&quot; that we belong to is one that includes all of the people in this hobby, and that there is a place for you in this culture if and only if you treat them all with respect and consideration, then the hobby will continue to have such a problem. We have to deny the idea that there is a &quot;white male culture&quot; that is somehow benefitted by misogynistic actions and/or that silently condones and protects those who engage in them, or we give succour to the phenomenon and perpetuate it.So, I see no claim that &quot;all white males are terrorists&quot;, here. I see a claim that there is a problem with the (perceived) existence of an exclusive &quot;white male culture&quot; that condones and protects misogynists. And I think that claim is accurate. The solution is to make it cease to be so.*: I use parentheses here because I'm not convinced that, for the specific issue of sexism, the &quot;white&quot; bit is terribly relevant. For the racist issue, on the other hand, I'm not sure the &quot;male&quot; bit is all that germane, either, so it's not a big deal.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Balesir, post: 6869072, member: 27160"] I hate to be picky on this, but I didn't read that there at all - I read the claim that there is a "white male terrorism problem" in gaming, and I think that is absolutely supportable. Just as with other "forms" of terrorism, a significant part of what supports and sustains the terrorism is the unchallenged belief among the real terrorists that they have a passively supportive "culture" or constituency that they are the (possibly somewhat outspoken and aggressive) warriors for. In this fantasy, they may be more outspoken than the rest, but they are just the assertive section of this supposed "culture" that are "standing up for the rights" of the group as a whole. In this sense, the problem indeed is with all (white) males*. Unless all of us (I am male, and white) make it crystal clear that the only "culture" that we belong to is one that includes [B]all of the people in this hobby[/B], and that there is a place for you in this culture if and only if you [B]treat them all with respect and consideration[/B], then the hobby will continue to have such a problem. We have to deny the idea that there is a "white male culture" that is somehow benefitted by misogynistic actions and/or that silently condones and protects those who engage in them, or we give succour to the phenomenon and perpetuate it. So, I see no claim that "all white males are terrorists", here. I see a claim that there is a problem with the (perceived) existence of an exclusive "white male culture" that condones and protects misogynists. And I think that claim is accurate. The solution is to make it cease to be so. *: I use parentheses here because I'm not convinced that, for the specific issue of sexism, the "white" bit is terribly relevant. For the racist issue, on the other hand, I'm not sure the "male" bit is all that germane, either, so it's not a big deal. [/QUOTE]

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