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<blockquote data-quote="pickin_grinnin" data-source="post: 6869285" data-attributes="member: 6697674">As far as the question of &quot;what do to with sexism/harrassment in gaming,&quot; the answers are pretty clear.&nbsp; They are the same as the answers to any social issue involving bigotry, sexism, racism, etc.1) Continue to point out the issue in a sound, logical, mature way.2) Don't descend to the level of the people who are causing the problem.&nbsp; 3) Realize that hyperbole, logical fallacies, and so forth will hurt your cause more than help it. Don't drive away potential allies by making sweeping generalizations.4) Realize that social issues don't go away overnight.&nbsp; Continuing to push for change is a good thing, but don't expect that such things will go away in a year, or two, or even ten.&nbsp; The best you can hope for is steady improvement.&nbsp; That doesn't mean you should stop bringing attention to it.&nbsp; It just means that you need to have realistic expectations.Finally, I would say that the problem isn't that there are men in gaming who harass women.&nbsp; The problem is that there are men who harass women, and this extends into all areas of life, including gaming.&nbsp; There is no reason to think that gamers in general (male or female) are any more socially conscious, ethical, egalitarian, etc. than men and women who aren't gamers.&nbsp; It's not a gamer problem.&nbsp; It's the continued existence (though a lessening one over time) of a very, very old problem.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pickin_grinnin, post: 6869285, member: 6697674"] As far as the question of "what do to with sexism/harrassment in gaming," the answers are pretty clear. They are the same as the answers to any social issue involving bigotry, sexism, racism, etc. 1) Continue to point out the issue in a sound, logical, mature way. 2) Don't descend to the level of the people who are causing the problem. 3) Realize that hyperbole, logical fallacies, and so forth will hurt your cause more than help it. Don't drive away potential allies by making sweeping generalizations. 4) Realize that social issues don't go away overnight. Continuing to push for change is a good thing, but don't expect that such things will go away in a year, or two, or even ten. The best you can hope for is steady improvement. That doesn't mean you should stop bringing attention to it. It just means that you need to have realistic expectations. Finally, I would say that the problem isn't that there are men in gaming who harass women. The problem is that there are men who harass women, and this extends into all areas of life, including gaming. There is no reason to think that gamers in general (male or female) are any more socially conscious, ethical, egalitarian, etc. than men and women who aren't gamers. It's not a gamer problem. It's the continued existence (though a lessening one over time) of a very, very old problem. [/QUOTE]

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