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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Taneras" data-source="post: 6870258" data-attributes="member: 6842952">All we have is anecdotal evidence, and we have that pointing in two different directions.  Some people say that they see it a lot and that its rampant, and some people say that they rarely see it and its about on par with what other groups experience.I think its very disingenuous to pretend that all the evidence is pointing one way or another.  There aren't any statistics backing this up, all we have are people discussing what they themselves have personally experienced.I'd also like to add that I have a wide variety of interests that I'm heavily involved in (cars, games, fishing, religion/philosophy, football, music, etc.) - I have a great job and have a lot of free time <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  Unfortunately I've seen this same line in many of the hobbies I participate in.  Not to derail this conversation, while I have opinions on religion I'm perfectly tolerant on peaceful people's views, but go look at atheism and "atheism+".  A lot of other groups are all of a sudden having these same sorts of issues.There's a reason why its done in court, its not some value that was arbitrarily plucked out of the air.Do you think if the roles were reversed, and you had men claiming that women were groping them at these events, that you'd have the entire community just nodding their heads in agreement that of course this happened just as they stated?  Again I'm not in the crowd that says this never happens.  I think it does, but I'm merely asking to what extent?If there are no objective societal ills coming from sexism in games (even if we assume that all claims of sexism are actually instances of sexism), what makes this different from me not liking green beans?  Without objective harm this seems to come down to just a difference in tastes.  If this is just a difference in tastes get in line because I'm a mustang fan and I think camaros are ugly <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> and that's a really big issue that's facing our society that we need to be made aware of!</blockquote>

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