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<blockquote data-quote="Taneras" data-source="post: 6870474" data-attributes="member: 6842952"><p>I honestly don't know. I'd most certainly lean towards the latter if the trend in the past few years wasn't what it currently is. Feminist blogs about how men simply smiling at women is sexism, college students claiming they need therapy because someone wrote, in chalk, "Trump 2016" on some of their universities sidewalks. The screeching girl yelling at one of the Deans at Yale saying, in so many words, that Yale wasn't about creating an intellectual space for students, it's purpose should be to make them feel safe (this all came about because of Halloween Costumes and people dressing up as if they were members of a different ethnic group - which made many students at Yale feel unsafe). What I see, honestly, is a big jump in hypersensitivity. The issue I spoke about with atheism+? A woman in an elevator at an atheist convention was asked if she'd like to have coffee in a guys room, and from that calls for anti-sexual harassment policies and an entire split in the atheist community that's still present.</p><p></p><p>Again, don't take this as me discounting all claims, or even most. I'm just skeptical about the frequency.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>For some reason this website is super slow loading, and I'm seeing over 20 pages. Do you know about where (first few pages, middle, or a few pages ago) it was discussed?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Probably? If you'd like we can go into statistics about how, generally speaking, men claiming to have been sexually assaulted by women is neglected by the authorities and glossed over by the public at large. Perhaps table top gaming communities are an outlier, but I really doubt it.</p><p></p><p>And I'm not trying to turn this into a conversation about male sexual assault victims, as this is about sexism, racism, etc. within the table top gaming community. I brought that up to show that on issues like these many people are generally skeptical regardless.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, but not in the way you're understanding. Please re-read what I've said. Sexism in games. Unless sexism in games influences sexism in real life, and unless we're going to argue that the characters in said games are actually real, have rights, and are suffering because they're exposed to sexism then it's simply a matter of taste. If there is no harm being caused besides people's sensibilities being offended, which can happen with any activity mind you, then what's the issue?</p><p></p><p>If sexism in games doesn't cause sexism in real life, and those characters experiencing sexism in those games aren't actually real people, then there's nothing wrong with it. You might as well be pointing to a violent movie where people are being killed as wrong because murder is wrong. Well unless that movie, and movies like it, actually affect the population, and unless the movie is fake and those people really aren't being killed, we're back to simply a matter of taste.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Taneras, post: 6870474, member: 6842952"] I honestly don't know. I'd most certainly lean towards the latter if the trend in the past few years wasn't what it currently is. Feminist blogs about how men simply smiling at women is sexism, college students claiming they need therapy because someone wrote, in chalk, "Trump 2016" on some of their universities sidewalks. The screeching girl yelling at one of the Deans at Yale saying, in so many words, that Yale wasn't about creating an intellectual space for students, it's purpose should be to make them feel safe (this all came about because of Halloween Costumes and people dressing up as if they were members of a different ethnic group - which made many students at Yale feel unsafe). What I see, honestly, is a big jump in hypersensitivity. The issue I spoke about with atheism+? A woman in an elevator at an atheist convention was asked if she'd like to have coffee in a guys room, and from that calls for anti-sexual harassment policies and an entire split in the atheist community that's still present. Again, don't take this as me discounting all claims, or even most. I'm just skeptical about the frequency. For some reason this website is super slow loading, and I'm seeing over 20 pages. Do you know about where (first few pages, middle, or a few pages ago) it was discussed? Probably? If you'd like we can go into statistics about how, generally speaking, men claiming to have been sexually assaulted by women is neglected by the authorities and glossed over by the public at large. Perhaps table top gaming communities are an outlier, but I really doubt it. And I'm not trying to turn this into a conversation about male sexual assault victims, as this is about sexism, racism, etc. within the table top gaming community. I brought that up to show that on issues like these many people are generally skeptical regardless. Yes, but not in the way you're understanding. Please re-read what I've said. Sexism in games. Unless sexism in games influences sexism in real life, and unless we're going to argue that the characters in said games are actually real, have rights, and are suffering because they're exposed to sexism then it's simply a matter of taste. If there is no harm being caused besides people's sensibilities being offended, which can happen with any activity mind you, then what's the issue? If sexism in games doesn't cause sexism in real life, and those characters experiencing sexism in those games aren't actually real people, then there's nothing wrong with it. You might as well be pointing to a violent movie where people are being killed as wrong because murder is wrong. Well unless that movie, and movies like it, actually affect the population, and unless the movie is fake and those people really aren't being killed, we're back to simply a matter of taste. [/QUOTE]
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