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<blockquote data-quote="Taneras" data-source="post: 6870486" data-attributes="member: 6842952">I have to ask why the difference in standards...&nbsp; Women simply need to claim, but men need to actually, somehow, prove that they didn't do it?Libramarian just said that &quot;here is a third option to belief and denial: skepticism. One is skeptical when they're withholding belief but open to changing their mind as further evidence comes to light.&quot;.&nbsp; Nothing about that statement says lets automatically believe the guys, or even lets automatically believe the bully's story.&nbsp; They're suggesting that we withhold belief entirely.&nbsp; And that doesn't mean don't take action.&nbsp; Lets say its a sexual/racial/whatever harassment claim about a DM at a specific table, it could be suggested that the person making the complaint try and switch groups, or, if the other party members agree with them about the harassment, the party find a different DM.&nbsp; After, remind all the groups in your shop/event that this sort of behavior isn't suppose to be happening.&nbsp;&nbsp; Then keep an eye on that DM and see if any other persons or groups have that issue.&nbsp; To me, based off of someones word alone, you shouldn't ban the DM or ignore the person making the complaint.On the contrary though DEFCON 1, that's exactly what you're doing, just swap the genders around.&nbsp; Please reread what you've typed, surely you can see the difference in standards you've placed on the genders.&nbsp; No, you didn't make this about victims and bullies, you made this about men and women and set different bars for each.&nbsp; Ironically your post is guilty of what you've accused Libramarian of.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Taneras, post: 6870486, member: 6842952"] I have to ask why the difference in standards... Women simply need to claim, but men need to actually, somehow, prove that they didn't do it? Libramarian just said that "here is a third option to belief and denial: skepticism. One is skeptical when they're withholding belief but open to changing their mind as further evidence comes to light.". Nothing about that statement says lets automatically believe the guys, or even lets automatically believe the bully's story. They're suggesting that we withhold belief entirely. And that doesn't mean don't take action. Lets say its a sexual/racial/whatever harassment claim about a DM at a specific table, it could be suggested that the person making the complaint try and switch groups, or, if the other party members agree with them about the harassment, the party find a different DM. After, remind all the groups in your shop/event that this sort of behavior isn't suppose to be happening. Then keep an eye on that DM and see if any other persons or groups have that issue. To me, based off of someones word alone, you shouldn't ban the DM or ignore the person making the complaint. On the contrary though DEFCON 1, that's exactly what you're doing, just swap the genders around. Please reread what you've typed, surely you can see the difference in standards you've placed on the genders. No, you didn't make this about victims and bullies, you made this about men and women and set different bars for each. Ironically your post is guilty of what you've accused Libramarian of. [/QUOTE]

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