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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6876367" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>You miss why Lovecraft would be offensive. Call of Cthulu is very careful to distance itself from the source material of Lovecraft himself which is incredibly racist and bigoted. Look, this isn't some secret, this is widely known. H. P. Lovecraft would make the average Klansman blush. He was a truly hateful person and it came out in his writing all the time.</p><p></p><p>Now, if you want to publish a Call of Cthulu game, and you keep those elements in there, true, you have that right. Actually, thinking about it, that might depend on country because, as a Canadian, we have Hate Speech laws, so, it might be illegal in Canada. Not sure, and since this is hypothetical, we can't really know. But, in any case, something that is true to the source material is going to read like a White Power screed. And, frankly, the hobby should condemn any publisher who does this (at least in an unironic fashion). </p><p></p><p>If, in your S&S new game, female characters can only be whores, then that's a problem. And the publisher should absolutely be criticised for it. Simply not buying the game isn't enough. There needs to be a public conversation as to <em>why</em> this game isn't being bought and what's wrong with it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why in the hell not? Remember, we're discussing harassment in gaming. Let's keep this on topic. If you complain to the management (whether at a con or at an FLGS) that someone is offending you, shouldn't you expect them to do something? Isn't that a basic expectation? Even if it's just pulling the other person aside and having a quiet word. So long as the offensive behaviour stops, that's the entire point. I should never have to "prove" that I was offended by something. That's not for you to judge. There is no threshold of offence that I have to reach in order to expect action to be taken.</p><p></p><p>I am offended is all it should take. Why or how much is NEVER a question that needs to be asked. You should never, ever have to justify why you are offended.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6876367, member: 22779"] You miss why Lovecraft would be offensive. Call of Cthulu is very careful to distance itself from the source material of Lovecraft himself which is incredibly racist and bigoted. Look, this isn't some secret, this is widely known. H. P. Lovecraft would make the average Klansman blush. He was a truly hateful person and it came out in his writing all the time. Now, if you want to publish a Call of Cthulu game, and you keep those elements in there, true, you have that right. Actually, thinking about it, that might depend on country because, as a Canadian, we have Hate Speech laws, so, it might be illegal in Canada. Not sure, and since this is hypothetical, we can't really know. But, in any case, something that is true to the source material is going to read like a White Power screed. And, frankly, the hobby should condemn any publisher who does this (at least in an unironic fashion). If, in your S&S new game, female characters can only be whores, then that's a problem. And the publisher should absolutely be criticised for it. Simply not buying the game isn't enough. There needs to be a public conversation as to [i]why[/i] this game isn't being bought and what's wrong with it. Why in the hell not? Remember, we're discussing harassment in gaming. Let's keep this on topic. If you complain to the management (whether at a con or at an FLGS) that someone is offending you, shouldn't you expect them to do something? Isn't that a basic expectation? Even if it's just pulling the other person aside and having a quiet word. So long as the offensive behaviour stops, that's the entire point. I should never have to "prove" that I was offended by something. That's not for you to judge. There is no threshold of offence that I have to reach in order to expect action to be taken. I am offended is all it should take. Why or how much is NEVER a question that needs to be asked. You should never, ever have to justify why you are offended. [/QUOTE]
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