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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 6876527" data-attributes="member: 19675">There was evidence.&nbsp; Falsified, yes, but evidence nonetheless.&nbsp; Tossing aside the Duke case, which progressed much further than it should have because of prosecutorial malfeasance (that ultimately got him disbarred), the UVA case was initiated because of serious allegations.Now, if you look around, standard operating procedure in many such type cases* is to suspend activities in which further violations could be committed while an investigation takes place.&nbsp; This is responsible, pragmatic procedure.&nbsp; Imagine, if you will, if such restrictions were not implemented: if the guys at UVA been actually guilty, but free to continue their partying ways unless and until they were actually proven guilty, they'd have had time to add a bunch more victims to their tally.&nbsp; Furthermore, the university would likely be open to civil liability for allowing that environment to exist while the investigation was ongoing.Were the men of UVA unjustly harmed?&nbsp; Yes.&nbsp; But compared to the harm averted had they been guilty of the offenses alleged, the hit to their reputation was minor.&nbsp; Society erred on the side of caution, but got it wrong in their case.Let us also not forget that the Greek Culture is fighting it's own issues of past and present harassment of women and minorities and other criminal activity, just like Geek Culture is, and that added credence to the believability of the initial falsehoods.&nbsp; For every two giant strides forward they take as a whole, they keep taking ugly, highly public steps backwards.&nbsp; Some haven't figured out yet you don't haze people- especially to death- get seen doing racist/bigoted chants, or cover up for brothers caught stealing &amp; engaging in animal cruelty.* The police do likewise when there is an officer involved shooting, for instance.&nbsp; Hospitals restrict patient access for doctors under investigation of serious crimes.&nbsp; Etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 6876527, member: 19675"] There was evidence. Falsified, yes, but evidence nonetheless. Tossing aside the Duke case, which progressed much further than it should have because of prosecutorial malfeasance (that ultimately got him disbarred), the UVA case was initiated because of serious allegations. Now, if you look around, standard operating procedure in many such type cases* is to suspend activities in which further violations could be committed while an investigation takes place. This is responsible, pragmatic procedure. Imagine, if you will, if such restrictions were not implemented: if the guys at UVA been [i]actually[/i] guilty, but free to continue their partying ways unless and until they were actually proven guilty, they'd have had time to add a bunch more victims to their tally. Furthermore, the university would likely be open to civil liability for allowing that environment to exist while the investigation was ongoing. Were the men of UVA unjustly harmed? Yes. But compared to the harm averted had they been guilty of the offenses alleged, the hit to their reputation was minor. Society erred on the side of caution, but got it wrong in their case. Let us also not forget that the Greek Culture is fighting it's own issues of past and present harassment of women and minorities and other criminal activity, just like Geek Culture is, and that added credence to the believability of the initial falsehoods. For every two giant strides forward they take as a whole, they keep taking ugly, highly public steps backwards. Some haven't figured out yet you don't haze people- especially to death- get seen doing racist/bigoted chants, or cover up for brothers caught stealing & engaging in animal cruelty. * The police do likewise when there is an officer involved shooting, for instance. Hospitals restrict patient access for doctors under investigation of serious crimes. Etc. [/QUOTE]

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