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<blockquote data-quote="Rygar" data-source="post: 6876773" data-attributes="member: 6756765">Ok,&nbsp; now let's consider what will happen in the real world.I'm in a Magic the Gathering tournament at the con.&nbsp; I end up in the top 8,&nbsp; there's one person with a deck that can consistently beat mine.&nbsp; So I have a plan I setup earlier.&nbsp; I call a female friend that came to the convention separately and have her go report the guy for making an offensive rape joke.&nbsp; Wait 15 minutes,&nbsp; call a second female friend and have her report him for inappropriately touching her.&nbsp; By your standards he's out,&nbsp; and I win the tournament.That's the problem with these policies that permit anyone to declare &quot;Harassment&quot; by allowing them to define what is harassment and then making the mistake of following Anita's &quot;Listen and Believe&quot;,&nbsp; it's trivial to exploit them to gain advantage in competitions or to eliminate people who disagree with you (I.e. Honey Badgers incident last year).&nbsp; &quot;I'm offended&quot; isn't enough.&nbsp; &quot;I feel harassed&quot; isn't enough.&nbsp; The only way to handle this is to clearly define cause for ejection in the convention's documentation and leave nothing up to the interpretation of the person making the complaint,&nbsp; because otherwise people are just going to do what they're doing right now,&nbsp; exploiting it to eject people they don't like or don't want to be at the con.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rygar, post: 6876773, member: 6756765"] Ok, now let's consider what will happen in the real world. I'm in a Magic the Gathering tournament at the con. I end up in the top 8, there's one person with a deck that can consistently beat mine. So I have a plan I setup earlier. I call a female friend that came to the convention separately and have her go report the guy for making an offensive rape joke. Wait 15 minutes, call a second female friend and have her report him for inappropriately touching her. By your standards he's out, and I win the tournament. That's the problem with these policies that permit anyone to declare "Harassment" by allowing them to define what is harassment and then making the mistake of following Anita's "Listen and Believe", it's trivial to exploit them to gain advantage in competitions or to eliminate people who disagree with you (I.e. Honey Badgers incident last year). "I'm offended" isn't enough. "I feel harassed" isn't enough. The only way to handle this is to clearly define cause for ejection in the convention's documentation and leave nothing up to the interpretation of the person making the complaint, because otherwise people are just going to do what they're doing right now, exploiting it to eject people they don't like or don't want to be at the con. [/QUOTE]

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