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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Taneras" data-source="post: 6876903" data-attributes="member: 6842952">No, a story of women scheming to manufacture false allegations against a man becomes true when the evidence leads you to that conclusion; Google, my mention of the victim's name, and the country this took place in was included to ground this instance in reality and allow people to look into it themselves - if they cared to.And no, any cases of anyone being harassed/sexually assaulted/raped that, like the above case that I mentioned, have evidence to back their claims should also be believed (duh).My call for caution came in, and I'm pretty sure I made that perfectly clear, when we simply *just* believe whatever we're told.  And yes, there are elements of our community who are demanding that we do just that.What have I said that suggests that I'm pushing for different standards between men and women on this issue?  I noticed you snipped out a portion of one of my quotes where I said that I'm sure that men do the same sort of collusion all the time - which would suggest the same level of caution at just believing what that group of college guys claimed happened as well.Let me rephrase the question, what constitutes something as "endemic"?  Where's the threshold between a rarity and something that's commonly found/seen?Thankfully I don't believe that they're all lying.There's a difference between a woman being called a whore, or being groped, and someone's opinions about an event or DM.  The former is objective and the latter is subjective.  Believing a subjective claim is just accepting that someone is honest about their opinion on something.  Believing an objective claim, with respect to what we're discussing, is believing someone else is guilty of something.  There's a big difference with accepting someone's subjective experiences and believing someone's objective claims.I think that people lie often enough, exaggerate claims often enough, and are mistaken enough to be cautious about just listening and believing.  I'll ask again, why do you think I'm singling out a certain gender here?A fancy way to put words in someone's mouth?</blockquote>

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