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<blockquote data-quote="Springheel" data-source="post: 6878126" data-attributes="member: 6828720"><p>As you're well aware, "acceptable social norms" are entirely subjective, depend heavily on context, and are not universally agreed-upon. Which is why, if someone accused you of doing something "unacceptable", more information would be required to determine whether what you were doing was, in fact, wrong.</p><p></p><p>Is breastfeeding in public socially acceptable? It's a fact that some people consider it "inappropriate" and will complain about it if it happens. What do you think should happen in that case? You work at a convention and someone comes up to you to tell you there is a person doing "inappropriate" things at a table. Do you take "immediate and swift action" and tell the mother to "watch what she does", without even knowing what the complaint is about? Do you find out what the "inappropriate behaviour" was and then take swift action to warn the woman breastfeeding that she'll be removed from the convention if there are more complaints? Or do you find out what the "inappropriate behaviour" was and then tell the complainer that breastfeeding in public is not against the rules and risk accusations of not taking her complaint seriously and "reducing the voice" of people who are offended? I don't see any response there that doesn't have the potential to offend one of the parties involved.</p><p></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p>That's a bit of a red herring, isn't it? No one here has said anything about perfect justice. The current line of discussion is whether a policy of "ask no questions" is a good one or whether cons should try to reduce subjectivity as much as possible by implementing clear harassment policies. Surprisingly, some people seem to be advocating the former over the latter, and I'm still trying to figure out why.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So if you agree that the "ask no questions" response can easily be abused, why are you advocating for it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Springheel, post: 6878126, member: 6828720"] As you're well aware, "acceptable social norms" are entirely subjective, depend heavily on context, and are not universally agreed-upon. Which is why, if someone accused you of doing something "unacceptable", more information would be required to determine whether what you were doing was, in fact, wrong. Is breastfeeding in public socially acceptable? It's a fact that some people consider it "inappropriate" and will complain about it if it happens. What do you think should happen in that case? You work at a convention and someone comes up to you to tell you there is a person doing "inappropriate" things at a table. Do you take "immediate and swift action" and tell the mother to "watch what she does", without even knowing what the complaint is about? Do you find out what the "inappropriate behaviour" was and then take swift action to warn the woman breastfeeding that she'll be removed from the convention if there are more complaints? Or do you find out what the "inappropriate behaviour" was and then tell the complainer that breastfeeding in public is not against the rules and risk accusations of not taking her complaint seriously and "reducing the voice" of people who are offended? I don't see any response there that doesn't have the potential to offend one of the parties involved. [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/LEFT] That's a bit of a red herring, isn't it? No one here has said anything about perfect justice. The current line of discussion is whether a policy of "ask no questions" is a good one or whether cons should try to reduce subjectivity as much as possible by implementing clear harassment policies. Surprisingly, some people seem to be advocating the former over the latter, and I'm still trying to figure out why. So if you agree that the "ask no questions" response can easily be abused, why are you advocating for it? [/QUOTE]
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