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<blockquote data-quote="Springheel" data-source="post: 6878880" data-attributes="member: 6828720">You're moving towards a different point than the one I was making.&nbsp; My point was in response to Gradine's claim that if someone feels they were harassed, then they clearly WERE harassed.&nbsp; I think that's wrong for the reasons I stated.&nbsp; You're moving the discussion to, &quot;even if a person didn't harass someone, what's the harm in treating them like they did?&quot;There are several answers to that question, but the most obvious one is that it's generally undesirable to treat an innocent person like they're guilty.But your question could just as easily be asked this way:&quot;If someone reports that they were offended by something a person said, what's wrong with asking the reporter what caused the offense?&nbsp; No harm, no foul.&nbsp; At worst, the reporter is a little embarrassed about having to quote what was said.&nbsp; But again, so what?&quot;&nbsp; If the thing they're offended by isn't actually something against the convention's standards of behaviour, you've just avoided having to accuse an innocent person of doing something wrong.&nbsp; And if the report is something serious, you now know what level of sanction is appropriate.&nbsp; Hopefully, convention staff would treat a rape or death threat more seriously than someone complaining about a person making a joke about menstruation.
It happens.&nbsp; One article that cites examples:&nbsp; <a href="https://postmortemstudios.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/gamers-the-nicest-white-terrorists-youll-ever-meet/" target="_blank">https://postmortemstudios.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/gamers-the-nicest-white-terrorists-youll-ever-meet/</a>

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[QUOTE="Springheel, post: 6878880, member: 6828720"] You're moving towards a different point than the one I was making. My point was in response to Gradine's claim that if someone feels they were harassed, then they clearly WERE harassed. I think that's wrong for the reasons I stated. You're moving the discussion to, "even if a person didn't harass someone, what's the harm in treating them like they did?" There are several answers to that question, but the most obvious one is that it's generally undesirable to treat an innocent person like they're guilty. But your question could just as easily be asked this way: "If someone reports that they were offended by something a person said, what's wrong with asking the reporter what caused the offense? No harm, no foul. At worst, the reporter is a little embarrassed about having to quote what was said. But again, so what?" If the thing they're offended by isn't actually something against the convention's standards of behaviour, you've just avoided having to accuse an innocent person of doing something wrong. And if the report is something serious, you now know what level of sanction is appropriate. Hopefully, convention staff would treat a rape or death threat more seriously than someone complaining about a person making a joke about menstruation. [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] It happens. One article that cites examples: [url]https://postmortemstudios.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/gamers-the-nicest-white-terrorists-youll-ever-meet/[/url] [/COLOR][/LEFT] [/QUOTE]

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