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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Twig" data-source="post: 6880815" data-attributes="member: 31754">Then the whole &quot;White Male Terrorist&quot; should never have been mentioned. It was though, so I figured I would address it.Yes, they are. Agree so far...And here you are resorting to hyperbole. I would agree that not enough is being done, but I don't think it is fair to say that virtually nothing is being done. But now we are arguing a matter of degrees. We are both saying more needs to be done, the only question is how much still needs to be done.There is not a push back on everything that is suggested, just the suggestions that go too far. Now I realize that &quot;too far&quot; is subjective, but you can still agree on some of the things that &quot;are not far enough&quot; to begin with and then push for more after that.That does not necessarily follow. I introduced my wife to RPGs, which I love, and she didn't really get into it. She is more than willing to play Magic the Gathering with the same group of guys, however. So it isn't the people in her case. It could just be that RPGs aren't as enticing to women as men. Women, as a group, are attracted to different types of video games than men are, so the same is probably true for table top games. With plenty of exceptions on both sides of course.I see &quot;investigating claims&quot; far distant from &quot;victim blaming&quot;. In my opinion they are farther apart than &quot;accepting any claim on blind faith&quot; and &quot;investigating claims&quot;. If you truly want something done whenever a claim is made then investigating the claim is doing something. It makes the accused aware that he (it's most likely a he) is under scrutiny and it could be made clear to him that harassing behavior is not acceptable.It also opens the door to clearing up an honest misunderstanding. It happened to me once where something I said was taken differently than I intended. When pointed out I realized the misunderstanding, apologized profusely and sincerely and we had a laugh about it afterwards. No harm no foul.Agreed. And I'll assume that this is aimed at a post other than mine, even though mine was the one quoted, because I sure never said anything like that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Twig, post: 6880815, member: 31754"] Then the whole "White Male Terrorist" should never have been mentioned. It was though, so I figured I would address it. Yes, they are. Agree so far... And here you are resorting to hyperbole. I would agree that not enough is being done, but I don't think it is fair to say that virtually nothing is being done. But now we are arguing a matter of degrees. We are both saying more needs to be done, the only question is how much still needs to be done. There is not a push back on everything that is suggested, just the suggestions that go too far. Now I realize that "too far" is subjective, but you can still agree on some of the things that "are not far enough" to begin with and then push for more after that. That does not necessarily follow. I introduced my wife to RPGs, which I love, and she didn't really get into it. She is more than willing to play Magic the Gathering with the same group of guys, however. So it isn't the people in her case. It could just be that RPGs aren't as enticing to women as men. Women, as a group, are attracted to different types of video games than men are, so the same is probably true for table top games. With plenty of exceptions on both sides of course. I see "investigating claims" far distant from "victim blaming". In my opinion they are farther apart than "accepting any claim on blind faith" and "investigating claims". If you truly want something done whenever a claim is made then investigating the claim is doing something. It makes the accused aware that he (it's most likely a he) is under scrutiny and it could be made clear to him that harassing behavior is not acceptable. It also opens the door to clearing up an honest misunderstanding. It happened to me once where something I said was taken differently than I intended. When pointed out I realized the misunderstanding, apologized profusely and sincerely and we had a laugh about it afterwards. No harm no foul. Agreed. And I'll assume that this is aimed at a post other than mine, even though mine was the one quoted, because I sure never said anything like that. [/QUOTE]

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