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<blockquote data-quote="Rottle" data-source="post: 6881262" data-attributes="member: 6842169"><p>This being the internet I tend to not trust statements of "fact" with no proof. The artical recalls many events and implies they all happened and happened to the same person. I honestly don't believe that, however I also don't care. One of the other poster related her experiences and again my belief things happened exactly as she related isn't important. The artical was poorly written if it's purpose is to get people motivated to change their behaviors in my view. When writing to convince people to do soemthing or more importantly that what they are doing needs to change the last thing you should do is put that group on the defensive, which clearly that writer does. </p><p></p><p>Ok can we all agree the artical is not important though to the over all discussion of the topic? </p><p></p><p>To me the only relevant topic is how do we stop harassment and protect each other from it, even if it happens far more rarely then some have stated. I am all on board with a zero harassment tolerance program, so any is not acceptable. Let's move past debates about how much happens, whether this poster has an agenda or anything else. Let just focus on protecting our fellow human beings. </p><p></p><p>I also saw a bit of talk about some people being too easily offended. For me it would take a lot to offend me, I know who I am, and so whatever a stranger says to me simply doesn't matter. But I respect people have different levels of tolerance for this, and by respect I mean I go overboard in making sure I don't offend. There are limits, as with all things nothing going too far ends well, but I would rather be slightly inconvenienced then offend or even worse make someone uncomfortable. I recall in my college days I went to a college in rural western pa, people there rarely if ever curse. I am from a more urban area of New Jersey...every other word out of my mouth then was a curse. I didn't see it as offensive but it was to them, so instead of insisting they change I took it on myself to change. To my mind it was just me being respectful. </p><p></p><p>Let's keep this simple. Can we all agree to respect each other? I think just that would be a good step. Add to that don't allow others to be disrespected without standing up for them and we are going strong. </p><p></p><p>As far as the physical harassment, that can never be tolerated or allowed to stand unchallenged. We can argue over which words offend but once someone is laid a hand on all debate ends. We as a community need to simply not allow it, not tolerate those who do it, and rush to the side of those it is done to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rottle, post: 6881262, member: 6842169"] This being the internet I tend to not trust statements of "fact" with no proof. The artical recalls many events and implies they all happened and happened to the same person. I honestly don't believe that, however I also don't care. One of the other poster related her experiences and again my belief things happened exactly as she related isn't important. The artical was poorly written if it's purpose is to get people motivated to change their behaviors in my view. When writing to convince people to do soemthing or more importantly that what they are doing needs to change the last thing you should do is put that group on the defensive, which clearly that writer does. Ok can we all agree the artical is not important though to the over all discussion of the topic? To me the only relevant topic is how do we stop harassment and protect each other from it, even if it happens far more rarely then some have stated. I am all on board with a zero harassment tolerance program, so any is not acceptable. Let's move past debates about how much happens, whether this poster has an agenda or anything else. Let just focus on protecting our fellow human beings. I also saw a bit of talk about some people being too easily offended. For me it would take a lot to offend me, I know who I am, and so whatever a stranger says to me simply doesn't matter. But I respect people have different levels of tolerance for this, and by respect I mean I go overboard in making sure I don't offend. There are limits, as with all things nothing going too far ends well, but I would rather be slightly inconvenienced then offend or even worse make someone uncomfortable. I recall in my college days I went to a college in rural western pa, people there rarely if ever curse. I am from a more urban area of New Jersey...every other word out of my mouth then was a curse. I didn't see it as offensive but it was to them, so instead of insisting they change I took it on myself to change. To my mind it was just me being respectful. Let's keep this simple. Can we all agree to respect each other? I think just that would be a good step. Add to that don't allow others to be disrespected without standing up for them and we are going strong. As far as the physical harassment, that can never be tolerated or allowed to stand unchallenged. We can argue over which words offend but once someone is laid a hand on all debate ends. We as a community need to simply not allow it, not tolerate those who do it, and rush to the side of those it is done to. [/QUOTE]
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