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<blockquote data-quote="MechaPilot" data-source="post: 6881492" data-attributes="member: 82779"><p>I don't know if this was directed at me or not (I was just talking about CMBs in this thread, so I think it could be), but I have to say that I disagree with your opinion here.</p><p></p><p>I am an old-school feminist, meaning that I adhere to the original feminist philosophy of advocating for equal treatment under the law regardless of gender (and not for special treatment for one gender over another, or overreacting to things in media like the Joker-Harley slap photo leaked from the set of Suicide Squad). I do not have a problem with pin-up art in general. I like pin-up art. However, to claim that the depiction of females in gaming art is not relevant to how females are seen seems naive to me. The overly-sexualized style with which females are often depicted in fantasy art presents women who are typically less-competent, less-prepared, and more fixated on appearance than their male counterparts.</p><p></p><p>I don't think that anyone is reasonably claiming that the CMB is, on its own, the source of the problems facing women in gaming. If anything, it's either symptomatic of the existing issue, or a potentially exacerbating factor. I will say that a reduction in the amount of pin-up style art over the years has made it easier for me to show off my D&D books to other women who show an interest in gaming. Being able to show off the books without being embarrassed by the art and without having to say things like "I know, I know, but the game really is fun if you give it a chance" improves the accessibility of the game and helps grow the hobby.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MechaPilot, post: 6881492, member: 82779"] I don't know if this was directed at me or not (I was just talking about CMBs in this thread, so I think it could be), but I have to say that I disagree with your opinion here. I am an old-school feminist, meaning that I adhere to the original feminist philosophy of advocating for equal treatment under the law regardless of gender (and not for special treatment for one gender over another, or overreacting to things in media like the Joker-Harley slap photo leaked from the set of Suicide Squad). I do not have a problem with pin-up art in general. I like pin-up art. However, to claim that the depiction of females in gaming art is not relevant to how females are seen seems naive to me. The overly-sexualized style with which females are often depicted in fantasy art presents women who are typically less-competent, less-prepared, and more fixated on appearance than their male counterparts. I don't think that anyone is reasonably claiming that the CMB is, on its own, the source of the problems facing women in gaming. If anything, it's either symptomatic of the existing issue, or a potentially exacerbating factor. I will say that a reduction in the amount of pin-up style art over the years has made it easier for me to show off my D&D books to other women who show an interest in gaming. Being able to show off the books without being embarrassed by the art and without having to say things like "I know, I know, but the game really is fun if you give it a chance" improves the accessibility of the game and helps grow the hobby. [/QUOTE]
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