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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy E Grenemyer" data-source="post: 6881950" data-attributes="member: 12388"><p>It's a post to tumblr, not a news expose in the Sunday edition of The New York Times. </p><p></p><p>People who relate their experiences on a blog or on a place like tumblr are getting their thoughts out, they are talking about their lives, and (in some cases) relating their life experiences.</p><p></p><p>They are not journalists whom we are required to hold to a certain standard. </p><p></p><p>This is just the sort of false comparison I was talking about.</p><p></p><p>One, not incidentally, that has already been discussed at length upthread. </p><p></p><p>Now then, the issue of women gamers being harassed online (rape threats, death threats, doxing) is widespread. It's been covered online, and to a much lesser degree in print. The topic of harassment at cons and game stories has received less coverage (to my knowledge; somebody correct me here if I am wrong), but the issue is cropping up more and more. </p><p></p><p>In my observation, when people bring up the issue of sexual harassment of males as a response to the topic of this thread, it's usually done to promote one or more of the following bad ideas/false claims:</p><p></p><p>1. The argument that talking about the issue of harassment of women means male victims (to the extent they actually exist) are de facto being ignored (they aren't).</p><p></p><p>2. That idea that the mere act of discussing the issue of harassment of women in gaming means everyone participating believes men are not harassed, ever, in gaming (the logic of which is dead on arrival). </p><p></p><p>3. The claim that because sexual abuse of all genders is widespread in the world today, therefore men are harassed in gaming just as much as women are (they aren't), so any claim of disproportionate abuse of one gender over another in gaming must be false. </p><p></p><p>4. To suppress the very important idea that a rising tide lifts all boats--meaning any emphasis on one form of sexual harassment raises awareness of the issue of harassment in gaming in general, and so raises awareness of the issue beyond gaming, so that all forms of harassment are more likely to be recognized and addressed/not tolerated when they happen.</p><p></p><p>These are all examples of arguments that I believe should not be tolerated in a discussion of harassment of women in gaming.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeremy E Grenemyer, post: 6881950, member: 12388"] It's a post to tumblr, not a news expose in the Sunday edition of The New York Times. People who relate their experiences on a blog or on a place like tumblr are getting their thoughts out, they are talking about their lives, and (in some cases) relating their life experiences. They are not journalists whom we are required to hold to a certain standard. This is just the sort of false comparison I was talking about. One, not incidentally, that has already been discussed at length upthread. Now then, the issue of women gamers being harassed online (rape threats, death threats, doxing) is widespread. It's been covered online, and to a much lesser degree in print. The topic of harassment at cons and game stories has received less coverage (to my knowledge; somebody correct me here if I am wrong), but the issue is cropping up more and more. In my observation, when people bring up the issue of sexual harassment of males as a response to the topic of this thread, it's usually done to promote one or more of the following bad ideas/false claims: 1. The argument that talking about the issue of harassment of women means male victims (to the extent they actually exist) are de facto being ignored (they aren't). 2. That idea that the mere act of discussing the issue of harassment of women in gaming means everyone participating believes men are not harassed, ever, in gaming (the logic of which is dead on arrival). 3. The claim that because sexual abuse of all genders is widespread in the world today, therefore men are harassed in gaming just as much as women are (they aren't), so any claim of disproportionate abuse of one gender over another in gaming must be false. 4. To suppress the very important idea that a rising tide lifts all boats--meaning any emphasis on one form of sexual harassment raises awareness of the issue of harassment in gaming in general, and so raises awareness of the issue beyond gaming, so that all forms of harassment are more likely to be recognized and addressed/not tolerated when they happen. These are all examples of arguments that I believe should not be tolerated in a discussion of harassment of women in gaming. [/QUOTE]
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