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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 6885103" data-attributes="member: 16814">This isn't a problem that will be solved by an ENWorld discussion.&nbsp; The realistic aims of such a discussion as this is awareness of the scope of the problem, and that's being achieved.&nbsp; Even Danny, who's already predisposed to help, has stated that he wasn't even aware of the scope of this problem.&nbsp; That means that he wouldn't be looking for a problem and would likely have overlooked minor events because he wasn't paying attention.&nbsp; He's paying attention, now, and won't overlook the small things that create the culture that more readily accepts the grosser behaviors.&nbsp; That's progress, and he's not the only one in just this thread that's said that they're not more aware.&nbsp; I think people are calibrated to expect that any problem should be solved in a short time.&nbsp; That's not reality, and it's certainly not reality when dealing with cultural issues.&nbsp; The best and most through changes in culture are the ones that occur from within, not the ones forced on from without.&nbsp; And, while this is a problem that is heinous in nature, it's still a cultural one, so awareness is the best weapon to fight it.&nbsp; In the meantime, do whatever you feel is right for you to continue to raise awareness and don't tolerate harassment in your games or in your venues.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 6885103, member: 16814"] This isn't a problem that will be solved by an ENWorld discussion. The realistic aims of such a discussion as this is awareness of the scope of the problem, and that's being achieved. Even Danny, who's already predisposed to help, has stated that he wasn't even aware of the scope of this problem. That means that he wouldn't be looking for a problem and would likely have overlooked minor events because he wasn't paying attention. He's paying attention, now, and won't overlook the small things that create the culture that more readily accepts the grosser behaviors. That's progress, and he's not the only one in just this thread that's said that they're not more aware. I think people are calibrated to expect that any problem should be solved in a short time. That's not reality, and it's certainly not reality when dealing with cultural issues. The best and most through changes in culture are the ones that occur from within, not the ones forced on from without. And, while this is a problem that is heinous in nature, it's still a cultural one, so awareness is the best weapon to fight it. In the meantime, do whatever you feel is right for you to continue to raise awareness and don't tolerate harassment in your games or in your venues. [/QUOTE]

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