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<blockquote data-quote="Rottle" data-source="post: 6890654" data-attributes="member: 6842169">In this case though it really does.&nbsp; The judge and officers found no evidence of threats of harm to any women in question.&nbsp; Look you cannot simply say we each get to define harassment for ourselves in a legal situation.&nbsp; I think we have to accept you can &quot;feel harassed&quot; and not actually be legally harassed.&nbsp; Either way a judge or jury makes that call and when they do I don't feel you can claim a person isn't innocent of the crime of harassment when the court says he is not guilty.&nbsp; I am all for anti harassment laws and their enforcement.&nbsp; It is regrettable and unfortunate that some innocents will be accused have damage done to their lives.&nbsp; Harassment in many cases is not like say robbery, it's more difficult to prove or disprove I suppose but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try.&nbsp; I do think the state or the accuser has to pay in some cases for the damage done to a persons life when they are found not guilty.&nbsp; If the state was overzealous and took a case far too weak to court, or if the accuser lied or contrived to damage someone with their false accusation.&nbsp; But sometimes it will just be harassment but not legally harassment.&nbsp;&nbsp; Look at the damage done to the duke lacrosse team when they were falsely accused, it's regrettable that it might and likely will happen to someone but that doesn't mean for society it isn't the right thing to make laws to protect people from harassment.&nbsp; We just have to as a society let the courts do their jobs and not assume guilt just because accusations are made.&nbsp; And yes the courts too will get things wrong, it unfortunate.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rottle, post: 6890654, member: 6842169"] In this case though it really does. The judge and officers found no evidence of threats of harm to any women in question. Look you cannot simply say we each get to define harassment for ourselves in a legal situation. I think we have to accept you can "feel harassed" and not actually be legally harassed. Either way a judge or jury makes that call and when they do I don't feel you can claim a person isn't innocent of the crime of harassment when the court says he is not guilty. I am all for anti harassment laws and their enforcement. It is regrettable and unfortunate that some innocents will be accused have damage done to their lives. Harassment in many cases is not like say robbery, it's more difficult to prove or disprove I suppose but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. I do think the state or the accuser has to pay in some cases for the damage done to a persons life when they are found not guilty. If the state was overzealous and took a case far too weak to court, or if the accuser lied or contrived to damage someone with their false accusation. But sometimes it will just be harassment but not legally harassment. Look at the damage done to the duke lacrosse team when they were falsely accused, it's regrettable that it might and likely will happen to someone but that doesn't mean for society it isn't the right thing to make laws to protect people from harassment. We just have to as a society let the courts do their jobs and not assume guilt just because accusations are made. And yes the courts too will get things wrong, it unfortunate. [/QUOTE]

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